Caravan Parking..Legalities?
Caravan Parking..Legalities?
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silverfoxcc

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8,476 posts

176 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Bod up the road has parked his not insubstantial caravan on the side of the road.
I always thought this was illegal

Am i correct, or has the law changed?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

292 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Why is it illegal?


Monty Python

4,813 posts

228 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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It's not illegal unless it's causing an obstruction. However, it must have reflectors pointing towards the oncoming traffic.

R6VED

1,492 posts

171 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Where I live you can't park a caravan even on your drive, some clause in the deeds that I spotted when we bought it 6 months ago. You also can't cut down certain trees and no sign written vans over a certain size are allowed.


Grandad Gaz

5,284 posts

277 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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I shouldn't worry too much. Pi keys will have it away in a day or two!

silverfoxcc

Original Poster:

8,476 posts

176 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Grandad, thats what i thoght as well!!!

However somewhere in my addled mind was the thought on it using 'road space' and not paying for it. But thanks for the heads up on it

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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I believe it has to have lights at night, the same as a skip or anything else left in the road.

NH1

1,333 posts

160 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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Grandad Gaz said:
I shouldn't worry too much. Pi keys will have it away in a day or two!
Quite, I know a bloke who had quite a nice caravan, he put the most expensive locking system on it he could buy. I was helping him out doing something an we came back to an empty drive and all that was left was a big chunk of hot smoldering metal.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Monday 30th September 2013
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R6VED said:
Where I live you can't park a caravan even on your drive, some clause in the deeds that I spotted when we bought it 6 months ago. You also can't cut down certain trees and no sign written vans over a certain size are allowed.
Did you not use a solicitor?

Streaky

Gren

2,030 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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R6VED said:
Where I live you can't park a caravan even on your drive, some clause in the deeds that I spotted when we bought it 6 months ago. You also can't cut down certain trees and no sign written vans over a certain size are allowed.
Always wondered about this. What would happen if you chose to ignore the clause?

Reason I ask is we had similar clauses in deeds of our old house. Trees not to be cut down and shrubs not to be planted etc. We ignored the last one and nothing ever happened.

tehguy

178 posts

162 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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What speed limit is the road? IIRC a trailer (including caravan) can be parked on the road, if it is left parked overnight it must not be facing the direction of traffic (in other words it should be pointing the correct way). If the speed limit is more than 30mph it must have its parking lights illuminated.

evilmunkey

1,377 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Up here in Leeds it is an offence to have a caravan parked on the public highway for more than 24 hours and can be and are removed by the enforcement team. Asked my mate who works for Leeds City Council about this a few months ago when a neighbour was completley blocking access to the street with his huge caravan.

evilmunkey

1,377 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Aso they are not the same as skips, to legaly have a skip on the public highway or footway you need to contact the local council and apply for a skip licence.

wildcat45

8,160 posts

220 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Gren said:
Always wondered about this. What would happen if you chose to ignore the clause?

Reason I ask is we had similar clauses in deeds of our old house. Trees not to be cut down and shrubs not to be planted etc. We ignored the last one and nothing ever happened.
It is hard to enforce. However, I guess if someone could be bothered to go to a solicitor I guess they'd take their money for a series of threatening letters.

It is usually something taken out by the housebuilder so the place looks nice for the first few months until they get all the plots sold.

julianc

1,984 posts

290 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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This will presumably happen more often as the recession bites even more and people can't afford the fees for storing the caravan at a more suitable location.

Personally, I prefer the Top Gear approach to caravans...... wink

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Monty Python said:
It's not illegal unless it's causing an obstruction. However, it must have reflectors pointing towards the oncoming traffic.
Is it not causing an obstrcution if the OP wants to park his car there?

Just out of interest what insurance cover is there if it rolled away and killed someone.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

186 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Gren said:
R6VED said:
Where I live you can't park a caravan even on your drive, some clause in the deeds that I spotted when we bought it 6 months ago. You also can't cut down certain trees and no sign written vans over a certain size are allowed.
Always wondered about this. What would happen if you chose to ignore the clause?

Reason I ask is we had similar clauses in deeds of our old house. Trees not to be cut down and shrubs not to be planted etc. We ignored the last one and nothing ever happened.
These clauses are usually written in by the builders to keep the estate looking nice while they try to sell all the properties.
Once they're all sold they couldn't really give a stuff - but there will always be someone living nearby waving deeds in your face if you breach them and it upsets them.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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PAULJ5555 said:
Monty Python said:
It's not illegal unless it's causing an obstruction. However, it must have reflectors pointing towards the oncoming traffic.
Is it not causing an obstrcution if the OP wants to park his car there?

Just out of interest what insurance cover is there if it rolled away and killed someone.
You could equally say a car is an obstruction to parking a caravan there.

The insurance question is interesting though, I'd like to know that too. We've got a caravan but no car with a tow bar, so I'd question how either of the car insurances could be liable.

FiF

48,931 posts

282 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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herewego said:
I believe it has to have lights at night, the same as a skip or anything else left in the road.
Essentially correct it has to have the lights illuminated between sunset and sunrise regardless of the speed limit of the road even if a solo vehicle of permitted types would be allowed to park there unlit.

Furthermore if the trailer is of a design which is not required to be fitted with obligatory front position lights, if it is parked on a road without a vehicle attached between sunset and sunrise, then a conforming set of front position lights must be fitted and kept continuously illuminated in addition to the rear lights.

Just to be clear even when connected to a vehicle and even though the combination is in a 30, not near a junction etc., the lights on the whole train must be lit.

Many years ago pre Internet I wasn't sure about this last point and asked some lads in the traffic section. As it happened they had to look it up and pronounced that lights had to be lit, but then added the rider that if they didn't know off the top of their heads then unlikely anyone else would know.

HTH.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2013
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Gren said:
R6VED said:
Where I live you can't park a caravan even on your drive, some clause in the deeds that I spotted when we bought it 6 months ago. You also can't cut down certain trees and no sign written vans over a certain size are allowed.
Always wondered about this. What would happen if you chose to ignore the clause?

Reason I ask is we had similar clauses in deeds of our old house. Trees not to be cut down and shrubs not to be planted etc. We ignored the last one and nothing ever happened.
In a (60's) house I used live in years ago, no one was allowed to boil blood.

Never stopped my ex-wife.