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esselte

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14,626 posts

290 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2004
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Just seen on Look North on BBC tonight,police in Keighley training civvies up to use pro laser and to report offenders to them.Apparently you would get 2 warning letters and then...? How long before one of these "vigilantes" gets mugged or run over by someone doing 32mph?What experience do they have to judge someone to be breaking the limit or will it just be ping...ping..ping got one?

gopher

5,160 posts

282 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2004
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The interesting bit will be the bit after "and then..."

If they try to do you for speeding under the current rules then there will be a test case fairly quickly to decide if a Poilce Officer is required to formulate an opinion of speed prior to using the device to confirm.

or has that been done?

Cheers

Paul

kevinday

13,676 posts

303 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2004
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Yup, currently requires a Police Constable to form the opinion of excess speed which is then corroborated by the speed measurement device.

piccy mate

541 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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How many noticed that Carol( My son was killed by a speeding motorist) Whittingham of SCARD got in on the act.
Piccy mate

piccy mate

541 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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How marvelous, a legal excuse to get your own back on the neighbour from hell!
Piccy mate

bryan35

1,906 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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and of course, selective speed enforcement.
These people won't have cars, as you won't get anyone with a car agreeing to this pantomime. So, the people doing this won't want to travel far, so there's a chance that the people driving past will be people they know. Don't want to do them, so just do people you don't know. The locals therefore can do what they like for more of the time, and people passing through get hammered.
very fair.
Would my own mother do me for speeding?
I think not.

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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kevinday said:
Yup, currently requires a Police Constable to form the opinion of excess speed which is then corroborated by the speed measurement device.


Er, not so - s89 RTRA only requires Constable or person authorised by chielf Officer...

Balmoral Green

42,558 posts

271 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Havent they considered the risk to their personal safety too?

No one is going to take a Policeman or proper Scamera team to task if they get flashed.

But I can imagine a 'nutta' or person of a 'violent disposition' being all to ready to get out of their vehicle and do violence to these people as they forcibly remove their equipment from them. A couple of old giffers at the side of the road wont stand a chance, and dodgy people prepared to take such action will have no problem sorting out a cast iron alibi either. As an alternative, there is also the "I know who you are and where you live" routine, bound to put the frighteners on.

The Police and Scamera staff are paid and trained to handle this, the public, no matter how well meaning, shouldnt be exposed to this risk. Even if it would serve them right!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

278 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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What a wonderfull picture of the future where people are encouraged to hand in friends and neighbours for petty crimes, real or imaginary. George Orwell was 20 years too early...

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Mr2Mike said:
What a wonderfull picture of the future where people are encouraged to hand in friends and neighbours for petty crimes, real or imaginary. George Orwell was 20 years too early...


I was thikning more nazi germany...

8Pack

5,182 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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Licenced Vigilantes! Whatever next, where the F.....! is this Country going?...
And how much do they get paid for this treachery?

Still, it's not new is it? In America they used to have a CB channel for other drivers to report speeders to the Police. Can't do that here though, it's illegal to use a phone or radio while mobile!

>> Edited by 8Pack on Thursday 4th November 00:18