Result in Court
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Well I've been to court today and couldn't had a better result.
The original offence was Dangerous Driving, this was because my car was clocked at 144mph.
When I got my NIP I was busy moving and it got overlooked and I forgot to send it back, this resulted in a summons for Failure to ID.
The original offence became none and void the minute I pleaded guilty to failure to ID.
So all in all I think 3 points and £200 fine was a result and it got my "Friend" of the hook by not naming him.
Before anyone goes into one about the speed, the only person that was at risk was my "Friend", so think that the plod that hid in the hedge getting cold for 4 hours zapping motorists will be a tad upset at the outcome.
Never mind, plenty more fish!!!
The original offence was Dangerous Driving, this was because my car was clocked at 144mph.
When I got my NIP I was busy moving and it got overlooked and I forgot to send it back, this resulted in a summons for Failure to ID.
The original offence became none and void the minute I pleaded guilty to failure to ID.
So all in all I think 3 points and £200 fine was a result and it got my "Friend" of the hook by not naming him.
Before anyone goes into one about the speed, the only person that was at risk was my "Friend", so think that the plod that hid in the hedge getting cold for 4 hours zapping motorists will be a tad upset at the outcome.
Never mind, plenty more fish!!!
Davel said:
Sorry but I think that your 'friend' was taking the p*ss at 144 and is extremely lucky to get away with it.
We all like speed but this was a little excessive to say the least, unless on a track or road elsewhere, wherever they may have such a limit.
If you wanted to take that kind of view, 70mph + 10% + 2 MPH could be classed as excessive, after all it is breaking the Law, enjoy your Ducati at the speed limit on the road for the rest of your life.
After all i wouldnt imagine somebody with resolve like yours would EVER speed excessively on that lovely bike in your profile
With only 3/4 of a mile to play with, I'd assume that your 'friend' must have been travelling at quite a pace before the straight in order to achieve 144 or even 192 with enough room to slow to mortal velocities before the next bend...
Some of the fastest cars on the planet have trouble hitting those kind of speeds on a 2 mile straight runway...
Some of the fastest cars on the planet have trouble hitting those kind of speeds on a 2 mile straight runway...
pdV6 said:
With only 3/4 of a mile to play with, I'd assume that your 'friend' must have been travelling at quite a pace before the straight in order to achieve 144 or even 192 with enough room to slow to mortal velocities before the next bend...
Some of the fastest cars on the planet have trouble hitting those kind of speeds on a 2 mile straight runway...
what a load of old crock....
assuming his 'friend' started from standstill, it's possible for quite a few cars to be doing this, and I can only assume that he was not starting from 0mph comming onto the stright bit...
Davel said:
Sorry but I think that your 'friend' was taking the p*ss at 144 and is extremely lucky to get away with it.
We MUST get away from the idea that safety can be judged by reference to the number of miles per hour over the limit. It's absolute rubbish.
150mph on an empty motorway in suitable conditions is likely to be far far safer than 30mph on a busy day in my local High Street.
The number tells us very little without detailed reference to the conditions.
Having said that, few headlight systems are good enough to support 144mph at night. I hope this dual carriageway was well lit?
Most of the German autobahn network is de-restricted & 130mph is about the "average" speed for most of it apart from around towns & major junctions.
Would you class 90% of germanys motorways speeds as excessive? I certainly would'nt. I wish drivers would get out & see what the rest of Europe is like before they make such daft statements as "it must be so dangerous"
I'll quite happily sit ot those speeds for hours on end travelling across Germany, (though I am more thorough in my cars preperation than in the uk)
Would you class 90% of germanys motorways speeds as excessive? I certainly would'nt. I wish drivers would get out & see what the rest of Europe is like before they make such daft statements as "it must be so dangerous"
I'll quite happily sit ot those speeds for hours on end travelling across Germany, (though I am more thorough in my cars preperation than in the uk)
On a short section of road, I simply wouldn't risk that speed.
Personally, I wouldn't risk it on any road anywhere - unless the speed limit were nearer that mark.
It's very simple, I need my licence and still think that it's taking the p*ss to expect to keep it by going over twice the legal limit.
I'm not saying that you are unsafe at that speed, just that it simply ain't worth risking your licence.
Equally, whilst you may well be within your capabilities at that speed, have you time to react if someone else does something that you haven't anticipated.
Just my view...
Personally, I wouldn't risk it on any road anywhere - unless the speed limit were nearer that mark.
It's very simple, I need my licence and still think that it's taking the p*ss to expect to keep it by going over twice the legal limit.
I'm not saying that you are unsafe at that speed, just that it simply ain't worth risking your licence.
Equally, whilst you may well be within your capabilities at that speed, have you time to react if someone else does something that you haven't anticipated.
Just my view...
safespeed said:
We MUST get away from the idea that safety can be judged by reference to the number of miles per hour over the limit. It's absolute rubbish.
150mph on an empty motorway in suitable conditions is likely to be far far safer than 30mph on a busy day in my local High Street.
The number tells us very little without detailed reference to the conditions.
Having said that, few headlight systems are good enough to support 144mph at night. I hope this dual carriageway was well lit?
I completely agree - many moons ago - before speed cameras really took off I rode my ZZR-1100 down the M4 late to catch a ferry over to Ireland.
Once over the bridge and onto the unlit section I toned it down to about 1.3 as the repeated adrenalin rushes of cresting little humps into a wall of blackness at +1.5 was making me feel a bit sick.
Sure, sometimes I was in excess of being able tyo stop in the ditance I could see - but on a deserted motorway at 01:00 the only persone likely to suffer was me.
Any speed can be a safe speed given the appropriate conditions.
best
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scuffham said:
With only 3/4 of a mile to play with, I'd assume that your 'friend' must have been travelling at quite a pace before the straight in order to achieve 144 or even 192 with enough room to slow to mortal velocities before the next bend...
Some of the fastest cars on the planet have trouble hitting those kind of speeds on a 2 mile straight runway...
what a load of old crock....
assuming his 'friend' started from standstill, it's possible for quite a few cars to be doing this, and I can only assume that he was not starting from 0mph comming onto the stright bit...
That's exactly my point. Its being presented as being perfectly acceptable on a straight dual carriageway.
However, the straight is only 3/4 mile long, and if you look at the top speeds recorded at Bruntingthorpe, with a 2 mile straight and a rolling start, you can see that 3/4 mile isn't very much space to get up to 192mph!
Therefore, one has to assume silly speeds before the straight and after it, unless he has some kind of flux-capacitor installation that isn't OEM!
Sure, 90 (say) - 144 - 90 on an empty straight would possibly be fine, given appropriate weather, road and traffic conditions. 90 - 192 - 90 is a lot more dubious IMO.
Then again, I don't know the road (or, rather, he hasn't told us where it is)
cptsideways said:The roads in Europe are not as congested for a start - can't remember where I read it but we have far more cars per mile of road in England than any other country in Europe (except Monaco - I believe).
I wish drivers would get out & see what the rest of Europe is like before they make such daft statements as "it must be so dangerous"
Strangely enough when we were in France I noticed that their was far less road kill. My 20 mile drive to work often presents me with the evidence of fresh road kill - rabbits, deer, foxes, badgers - and this is on a dual carriageway. I am not sure if in Europe this is due to road design or the corpses are quickly removed, but TBH I would suggest that very few drivers would not automatically swerve to avoid a stray animal. Would not like to experience this at 144 mph.
Incidently - 15,000 road accidents in Scotland each year are caused by deer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3722704.stm
The 144 was done from a standstill on that strectch of road but the 192 was not, ok if something did go wrong god knows what would have happend but the only person it would have affected would be said "Friend" and my car, if he was happy doing that then it's down to him. The road is a newish bypass in the country, no buildings, or cars at said given time, just fields.
I personally wouldn't attempt that speed in a normal car, but the car that was used can more than cope with those speeds and braking distance can comfortably stop when hitting a 300 yard marker at 170 and be at a standstill at the 100 yard marker.
If the car , bike is made for it then use it where conditions allow, and that doesn't have to be every day just when safe to do so.
Just my view, each to there own!
I personally wouldn't attempt that speed in a normal car, but the car that was used can more than cope with those speeds and braking distance can comfortably stop when hitting a 300 yard marker at 170 and be at a standstill at the 100 yard marker.
If the car , bike is made for it then use it where conditions allow, and that doesn't have to be every day just when safe to do so.
Just my view, each to there own!
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