I do not understand why we have tax disk cameras.
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Do not get me wrong, my household coughs up for tax on 3 cars every year and I resent the fact that some scroates get away without doing so, but why do we have to use a camera to catch them in the act? Every year I get a reminder which gives me the option to tax a car or complete a SORN. I present this when I pay the tax and this fact is recorded (I notice this year that a bar code is scanned) Therefore, If I have not completed a SORN, and I have not presented my form by taxing the car, I have NO TAX. Could the authoities not just send me an automatic summons? It seems daft that police are tied up trying to catch people at it, when there is a database with a list of un-taxed cars on (assuming that the DVLA database is not totally crap) Why must we make everything so bleedin' complicated!?
Jon
Jon
Not everyone who drives a car has a home, home address and has previously registered their car as belonging to their household.
You, as an honest, decent, law-abiding citizen can be traced and found - they don't need ANPR cameras to catch you. After all - you would never SORN a vehicle and then drive it! I'm afraid others would - and worse.
You, as an honest, decent, law-abiding citizen can be traced and found - they don't need ANPR cameras to catch you. After all - you would never SORN a vehicle and then drive it! I'm afraid others would - and worse.
They do have the system you suggest. They sent me penalty notice for my motorbike because of that system. The fact that I had been trying to declare it SORN for two months hadn't made a difference!
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
They do have the system you suggest. They sent me penalty notice for my motorbike because of that system. The fact that I had been trying to declare it SORN for two months hadn't made a difference!
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
They do have the system you suggest. They sent me penalty notice for my motorbike because of that system. The fact that I had been trying to declare it SORN for two months hadn't made a difference!
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
You get a month after your tax runs out, then you get the notice.
But not everyone has tax to run out and trigger the system - and they need to be caught and their cars thoroughly "tested", in a barn, for at least the period they haven't paid tax for.
How can you catch somebody driving an untaxed car, if the car was paid for with cash, and is kept in a garage somewhere?
Besides a policeman pulling you over, or an accident, you could drive around for years and nobody would be the wiser.
Thats why tax cameras are there. If they continuously detect a car with no tax driving a certain road at a certain time of day, its not hard for a policeman to sit and wait for said car to pootle by....
Besides a policeman pulling you over, or an accident, you could drive around for years and nobody would be the wiser.
Thats why tax cameras are there. If they continuously detect a car with no tax driving a certain road at a certain time of day, its not hard for a policeman to sit and wait for said car to pootle by....
parrot of doom said:
How can you catch somebody driving an untaxed car, if the car was paid for with cash, and is kept in a garage somewhere?
Besides a policeman pulling you over, or an accident, you could drive around for years and nobody would be the wiser.
Thats why tax cameras are there. If they continuously detect a car with no tax driving a certain road at a certain time of day, its not hard for a policeman to sit and wait for said car to pootle by....
I doubt very much our friends the "travellers" have too much bother with registering a car at an address and then having the bother of tax, insurance and MOT. So, some people obviously don't need an address.
I have an old and very dead and rusty motorbike in my garage that I have never SWORN or informed of change of address 10 years ago, because I didn't see the point as it doesn't go anywhere.
I am scared that if I now inform DVLA of the correct details and declare it SWORN that I will be fined. So I may probably just dump it somewhere and say I sold it, as it would be cheaper than a fine.
I am scared that if I now inform DVLA of the correct details and declare it SWORN that I will be fined. So I may probably just dump it somewhere and say I sold it, as it would be cheaper than a fine.
ledfoot said:
I have an old and very dead and rusty motorbike in my garage that I have never SWORN or informed of change of address 10 years ago, because I didn't see the point as it doesn't go anywhere.
I am scared that if I now inform DVLA of the correct details and declare it SWORN that I will be fined. So I may probably just dump it somewhere and say I sold it, as it would be cheaper than a fine.
Ledfoot.
If you last taxed it after 1998 I think it was, then you have to SORN it if you no longer keep it on the road. If you are still keen to dump it let me dump it for you.
jon h said:
Do not get me wrong, my household coughs up for tax on 3 cars every year and I resent the fact that some scroates get away without doing so
Hell... I have 4 vehicles and resent having to pay 4X the amount when only one is ever on the road at any one god given time.
Why can't there be a transferable one between cars.
Wherever possible I try and get a free month or two out of them.
As for having tax disk cameras, the bib's & government already have far too many types of cameras about watching and spying on us. George Orwell, not so stupid after all, me thinks.
Get rid of all of em I say.
oldred said:
Ledfoot.
If you last taxed it after 1998 I think it was, then you have to SORN it if you no longer keep it on the road. If you are still keen to dump it let me dump it for you.
It was last taxed before 1998, I am certain.
This sounds good news. But I could not find this mentioned on DVLA website anywhere.
It's only a 125 Suzuki by the way, and it really is a rusting non-starting
eyesore.
>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 9th November 22:47
The best bit is, the whole camera system does not work!
A determined criminal will get away with it, until he is stopped by trafpol (dying breed)
I used to think ANPR was a really good idea until.....
www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=134916
A determined criminal will get away with it, until he is stopped by trafpol (dying breed)
I used to think ANPR was a really good idea until.....
www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=134916
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