WHO Report on Road Traffic Safety re: CSCP
WHO Report on Road Traffic Safety re: CSCP
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cptsideways

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Tuesday 9th November 2004
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As I have been blocked from posting on the CSCP forum, I'd thought I'd post this up here. It makes interesting reading.

Steve Callahan suggested we all should read the WHO report here I have read into it and also looked at some of the source data from which it quotes. However Steve is quoting only selective data. So may I suggest he reads some of the source data too, here are some important bits I found.

Reading into the source data I find:



Swedish Report its ref 179 said:

Realistic Speed Limits

A prerequisite to developing any effective speed management program is to establish realistic speed limits to match roadway design and area characteristics. The relationship between speed limits and the roadway environment must be credible and consistent. If speed limits are viewed as unrealistic for prevailing conditions by the majority of road users, the plan is doomed to failure.




That'll be the 85th percentile then :

However thinking about this further, if the "PLAN" is doomed to failure then the partneships will be claiming massive "results" in the number of speeders caught???, obviously this is me being cynical & this would never be allowed to happen in the real world would it.......

What would the results be if the partnerships only nabbed those exceeding the 85th percentile by an excessive margein, somewhat different I think.


Swedish Report its ref 179 said:

Generally, the Dutch approach to the speed problem is preventative rather than repressive (such as imposing fines and punishment). Preventative measures include traffic education, communication, insurance incentives, road design, intelligent cruise control, traffic enforcement, and speed control for trucks. Specific elements of the national speed strategy include:


Electronic traffic enforcement designed to reduce the labor-intensive effort of stopping each vehicle and to increase driver perception of enforcement.

Flexible speed limits on motorways where speed limits can be lowered through changeable message signs to encourage motorists to adapt to prevailing traffic and environmental conditions.

Lane restrictions for trucks.




Ahhhh lane resrtictions for trucks as per the autobahn's may be more effective at reducing accidents than nabbing cars driving at the 85th percentile



Swedish Report its ref 179 said:

The general absence of a formal speed management program in Germany is perhaps driven by the public perception that one should drive at a speed appropriate for conditions, and this speed should not be determined by the government. The officials and researchers who met with the study team also shared this view. It is believed that road safety can be enhanced by alerting drivers to dangerous spots or stretches, rather than imposing a specific limit, thereby increasing the acceptance ratio. Local maximum posted limits reflect the need to warn motorists and support them in their duty to drive at a speed appropriate for conditions.


I think thats called awareness as opposed to compliance?


>>> Edited by cptsideways on Tuesday 9th November 09:37

Mr E

22,718 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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cptsideways said:


Swedish Report its ref 179 said:

the public perception that one should drive at a speed appropriate for conditions, and this speed should not be determined by the government.



I think thats called awareness as opposed to compliance?


You wanted a slogan for the anti scamera lobby.

That will be it then.

Nail. Head.

james_j

3,996 posts

278 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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cptsideways said:
[quote=Swedish Report its ref 179]
The general absence of a formal speed management program in Germany is perhaps driven by the public perception that one should drive at a speed appropriate for conditions, and this speed should not be determined by the government. The officials and researchers who met with the study team also shared this view. It is believed that road safety can be enhanced by alerting drivers to dangerous spots or stretches, rather than imposing a specific limit, thereby increasing the acceptance ratio.


This sounds dangerously like common sense.

"...speed appropriate for conditions...not determined by the government...road safety can be enhanced by alerting drivers to dangers rather than imposing a specific limit..."

Wonderful, intelligent even.

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th November 2004
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I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I were to plagiarise some of this on a CSCP post (after I've read the report myself of course).

cptsideways

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Tuesday 9th November 2004
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V8 Archie said:
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I were to plagiarise some of this on a CSCP post (after I've read the report myself of course).


Of course you can, read the english pdf file summary as per steve article today, check the ref & do a google. Thats where I found it.

I posted it here as I was blocked on the CSCP, it appears I have access to post on there again.