Another 145mph
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Mr2Mike

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20,143 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/3999805.stm

This has to be one of the worst bits of reporting I've seen from the BBC, throwing in totaly unrelated crap such as:

"Aurea Billings, from St Austell, Cornwall, knows personally the lethal effect of speeding.

Her son, Sam, was killed by a driver doing 60mph in a 30mph limit. "

And their point would be what? The driver caught was on a dual carriageway, not an urban 30mph area. Obviously written by a lentelist reporter who felt that stopping to emotional bollocks was the only way to get his point accross.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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One thing in life is certain....you can always rely on the BBC.

XM5er

5,094 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I have no doubt that the Scamraship's PR department wrote the press release and the BBC reported it word for word.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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PetrolTed

34,464 posts

327 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Speeds are coming down according to the report.

They omit to mention whether, deaths coming down too. How odd.

GregE240

10,857 posts

291 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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Mother of speed victim said:
Nothing is worth the risk of killing somebody at great speed
Thats as opposed to killing somebody at medium speed, or low speed, or even no speed at all.

I despair.

lunarscope

2,901 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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GregE240 said:

Mother of speed victim said:
Nothing is worth the risk of killing somebody at great speed

Thats as opposed to killing somebody at medium speed, or low speed, or even no speed at all.

I despair.

What about rushing a dying child to hospital ?



Personally, I think that's worth the risk.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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I agree with all written abve, but would just say this....

145mph on the A380 IS irresponsible. I would be concerned about wrapping myself around the scenery never mind the risk to others.

Mr Whippy

32,237 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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All I can say for people who get run over is that the road is a dangerous place.

I by no means condone driving without due care, or not paying attention to the circumstances, but what was a child doing on a dual carriageway in the first place?

There are always adequate pedestrian bridges over dual carriageways!

Surely we need to put emphasis on the daft parent who let their child grow up thinking cars were made of marshmallow, and that dual carriageways were safe places to be and acceptable to be!

Uh, whatever next...

Dave

kevinday

13,679 posts

304 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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PetrolTed said:
Speeds are coming down according to the report.

They omit to mention whether, deaths coming down too. How odd.


The report is at odds with the DfT TrafficSpeed survey which shows there is no real change in peoples speeds over the last year or so. Here is a quote:

DfT Survey said:


Here is a straight quotation from the survey. Draw your own conclusions.

Non-built up roads - 2003 estimates (based on a survey population of around 677 million)

Average recorded vehicle speeds hardly changed from previous years. Average car speed on motorways 71 mph, static since 1998. Proportion of cars exceeding the limit ROSE to 57% from 54% in 2002 and 2001.

20% of cars on motorways were exceeding 80 mph, and also 28% of motorcycles (up from 27% in 2002).

On DCs more than 50% of all cars exceeded the speed limit, 15% were travelling faster than 80 mph. 23% of motorcycles exceeded 80 mph.

On single carriageway roads 9% of cars exceeded the 60 mph limit, 2% over 70 mph.

HGVs - 87% of HGVs exceeded the 50 mph limit for DC roads, no significant change. On SC roads 74% exceeded the 40 mph limit, up from 68% in 2002. 23% were exceeding 50 mph, up from 15% in 2002.

On built up roads with 30 and 40 mph limits there do not appear to be any significant changes in the percentages exceeding the limit.



IMHO this leads me to conclude that the speed limit on SC roads is about right, the speed limit on DC and Mways should be increased to 80 mph (85th %'ile, also in line with Europe standards). Also it seems rather obvious that 'safety cameras' are having absolutely no effect on driver behaviour.

TripleS

4,294 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th November 2004
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PetrolTed said:
Speeds are coming down according to the report.


Mine aren't. My average speeds have increased appreciably during the past two years or so.

I wonder what that signifies.

Best wishes all,
Dave.