Can't see the double yellows, still get a ticket?

[Urban Sports]

I parked up today next to a road that I know is double yellow, there were that many leaves that virtually the whole stretch of double yellows was covered, this is a piece of road that is often 'policed'.

If you weren't familiar with the road and couldn't see the doubles and parked there would you still be fined?

[PurpleMoonlight]

Notice: Parking restrictions suspended due to leaves on the line.

Errm, maybe not ....

[*Al*]

Take a picture and fight the fine, if you haven't tried it on before you should get away with it.

[Urban Sports]

Not me, merely an observation with a question.

[bigee]

As far as I'm aware if the restrictions/lines are not maintained then you would be successful in 'getting off'.
I think this goes for snow/ice,leaves,faded lines etc. I have done so a couple of times.

[lincsls2]

I would think if challenged the fine would be over turned. Especially since most people have camera phones now and can supply photo evidence.

[Riley Blue]

Were the leaves so deep they covered the sign on the pole?

[Don1]

Riley Blue said:

Were the leaves so deep they covered the sign on the pole?

This.

[smiffy180]

Don1 said:

Riley Blue said:

Were the leaves so deep they covered the sign on the pole?

This.

There's not always a sign though.......

[Urban Sports]

Don1 said:

Riley Blue said:

Were the leaves so deep they covered the sign on the pole?

This.

Which pole you head cases?

[Don1]

I have never seen a double yellow, or parking restriction without a pole mounted sign, in the modern era.

[crossy67]

I remember watching a program a few years ago about a lawyer who specialised in getting wealthy clients off their driving convictions. One of them was parking on double yellows. Apparently if the yellow lines are not regulation they can not be enforced, this included stupid things like the little bit on the end of the lines that close the two ends off. If it's missing, they're not regulation and not enforceable. Maybe it was bullst, maybe things have been changed?

[FarmerJim]

crossy67 said:

I remember watching a program a few years ago about a lawyer who specialised in getting wealthy clients off their driving convictions. One of them was parking on double yellows. Apparently if the yellow lines are not regulation they can not be enforced, this included stupid things like the little bit on the end of the lines that close the two ends off. If it's missing, they're not regulation and not enforceable. Maybe it was bullst, maybe things have been changed?

I have got off on this before, as have some of my friends.

[Kev T360]

This was sort of covered on TV last week on Domonick littlewoods CCTV Britian, only the lines were covered by snow, the traffic wordens where recorded ticketing 2 cars and then clearing the snow of the lines. Eventuly the car owners got a refund after about 18 months after the footage was sent in to the council.

[Boosted LS1]

As I understand it the yellow lines inform you that there's a restriction in force. Then you look for the sign on the pole to clarify the restrictions. If you can't see the lines why would you look for the sign on a pole?

[LLOZAR]

Kev T360 said:

the traffic wordens where recorded ticketing 2 cars and then clearing the snow of the lines.

So why didn't drivers clear the snow themselves, like using their feet'n'ting? That would be my default action in case of any doubts. Like you know, "Ignorantia juris non excusat" or some crazy st like that. If I worked for council I would tell them to do one. This world never ceases to amaze me.

[pcvdriver]

Riley Blue said:

Were the leaves so deep they covered the sign on the pole?

I'm surprised there were enough leaves to obstruct being able to see the lines in December. There again - I do live in Scotland, where winter comes earlier...... But, if you don't fight it you can't complain afterwards.

[rswift]

Have a look though this.

I have successfully got off a few tickets due to poor maintenance, incorrect signage etc all helped by the info on this site.

http://www.ticketfighter.co.uk

[AGK]

crossy67 said:

I remember watching a program a few years ago about a lawyer who specialised in getting wealthy clients off their driving convictions. One of them was parking on double yellows. Apparently if the yellow lines are not regulation they can not be enforced, this included stupid things like the little bit on the end of the lines that close the two ends off. If it's missing, they're not regulation and not enforceable. Maybe it was bullst, maybe things have been changed?

If the council isn't going to comply with the regulation regarding markings then why should they be allowed to then use their lack of compliance to fine you?

Here's markings outside my office that I parked on one night. Half the car was on the double yellows and I got a ticket.



Ticket stated "parked on double yellow" so I contested it online. All I put in the box was "I was parked on a single white line".

I received a reply a few days later

. said:

Thank you for your letter received on 19 April 2013. Although the lines at the location are a yellow line waiting restriction it has been agreed the colour has so badly faded that it may cause confusion.

In view of the circumstances of the case, as stated above, the parking ticket has been withdrawn and cancelled.