PAINTBALL and CAMERAS
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madbrian

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66 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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I have been told that the latest gatso attacks have been done with PAINTBALL GUNS in certain parts of the country. Anyone seen any done in this way?

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

282 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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No but three cheers all the same

nonegreen

7,803 posts

294 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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erm ahem good god no how could you?

4 am is good no cops

cortinaman

3,230 posts

277 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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pitty they aint using armourlites!

nickwilcock

1,523 posts

271 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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Very naughty.....

If brightly coloured paint was to be used, it would be obvious for all to see. But perhaps if something like Vaseline was used, or some form of clear resin, then it wouldn't be immediately obvious to the authorities and would distort the image sufficiently to render it unusable in evidence?

Not that anyone should do any such thing, of course....

>> Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 13th November 21:53

Pigeon

18,535 posts

270 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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I believe the lenses are made of expensive bulletproof glass. Paint, vaseline or resin would be quite easy to clean off. Hydrofluoric acid would be a different matter...

Flat in Fifth

48,025 posts

275 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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Pigeon said:
I believe the lenses are made of expensive bulletproof glass. Paint, vaseline or resin would be quite easy to clean off. Hydrofluoric acid would be a different matter...

even the thought of someone going round firing pellets of hydrofluoric acid is beyond the conceivable.

Get some of that stuff on you and it is through to the bone before you know you are burnt.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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Superglue pellets would be VERY difficult to remove

nickwilcock

1,523 posts

271 months

Saturday 13th November 2004
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Perhaps grease mixed with grinding paste? So that any attempt to remove it......

Not that anyone should do such a thing, of course...

bryan35

1,906 posts

265 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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a friend of mine who has to deal with maintenance of speed cameras (you can guess his job) claims that the top 4 damage causes are.......

1. Tyre over the camera filled with diesel and lit.
2. graffiti
3. impact from vehicles (tractors and the like)
4. hole drilled in case, and case filled with expanding builders foam

the foam one is quite good, as you can't really tell anythings happened to the camera, until the staff can't get the case open. It completely writes off the camera by the way.

gh0st-preop

4,693 posts

282 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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bryan35 said:
a friend of mine who has to deal with maintenance of speed cameras (you can guess his job) claims that the top 4 damage causes are.......

1. Tyre over the camera filled with diesel and lit.
2. graffiti
3. impact from vehicles (tractors and the like)
4. hole drilled in case, and case filled with expanding builders foam

the foam one is quite good, as you can't really tell anythings happened to the camera, until the staff can't get the case open. It completely writes off the camera by the way.


Do the cameras (the actualy camera lens part) not have removable plastic?

Surely the designers of said items MUST have realised that people WILL try to damage them and thought of easy ways of reapiring them...

If not I guess it just proves how dumb the government and the companies really must be and the overwhelming assumption that the gatsos would simple be left alone ...

autismuk

1,529 posts

264 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that in Holland you can buy an extending arm thing that will squirt stuff into Gatsos.

Tafia

2,658 posts

272 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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Pigeon said:
I believe the lenses are made of expensive bulletproof glass. Paint, vaseline or resin would be quite easy to clean off. Hydrofluoric acid would be a different matter...


Isn't that the same as brick cleaner?

medicineman

1,817 posts

261 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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The Oz version of top gear showed an extending arm made for spray paint, the company sold out in two days.

I would have thought shooting them could be risky, what if the damn thing goes off and pictures you in the act?

Apparently Gatso's are weakess at the lens and flash points. The trick with builders foam was started in Holland. A small drill and a can will deactivate most cameras.

A classic story I heard was two pipe inspectors who where flashed. They attached a potent gamma source (use to x-ray pipes) to the box and left it "hot". They said the box would blank any film for at least a year after.

diesel ed

499 posts

258 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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gh0st-preop said:
Surely the designers of said items MUST have realised that people WILL try to damage them and thought of easy ways of reapiring them...
Surely they thought of the follow up maintenance/ repair/ replacement income stream.

gh0st-preop said:
If not I guess it just proves how dumb the government and the companies really must be and the overwhelming assumption that the gatsos would simple be left alone ...
Government, dumb, must be. Unless, of course, they're on commission. Surely not!

bluepolarbear

1,666 posts

270 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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diesel ed said:

gh0st-preop said:
Surely the designers of said items MUST have realised that people WILL try to damage them and thought of easy ways of reapiring them...

Surely they thought of the follow up maintenance/ repair/ replacement income stream.


gh0st-preop said:
If not I guess it just proves how dumb the government and the companies really must be and the overwhelming assumption that the gatsos would simple be left alone ...

Government, dumb, must be. Unless, of course, they're on commission. Surely not!


Thought out from start to finish and its a win win

1) Ongoing revenue stream for manufacture - this creates wealth, employment, income and tax
2) Repair cost met by speeding motorists so no impact on tax revenues (other than opportunity loss)
3) Camera damage can be spun so that it tars all anti camera organisations with the same "irresponsible" / "anti democratic" brush

Mr E

22,718 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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medicineman said:


A classic story I heard was two pipe inspectors who where flashed. They attached a potent gamma source (use to x-ray pipes) to the box and left it "hot". They said the box would blank any film for at least a year after.


Genius. Doesn't work for digicams though.

sheepy

3,164 posts

273 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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Mr E said:

medicineman said:


A classic story I heard was two pipe inspectors who where flashed. They attached a potent gamma source (use to x-ray pipes) to the box and left it "hot". They said the box would blank any film for at least a year after.



Genius. Doesn't work for digicams though.
Actually it might, because some semiconductor devices can be damaged by some types of radiation.

Sheepy

Pigeon

18,535 posts

270 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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Tafia said:

Pigeon said:
I believe the lenses are made of expensive bulletproof glass. Paint, vaseline or resin would be quite easy to clean off. Hydrofluoric acid would be a different matter...

Isn't that the same as brick cleaner?

That'd be hydrochloric acid most likely. Hydrofluoric, due to the characteristics described by FiF, is not something you can get in the DIY store...

medicineman said:
A classic story I heard was two pipe inspectors who where flashed. They attached a potent gamma source (use to x-ray pipes) to the box and left it "hot". They said the box would blank any film for at least a year after.

I'm not sure which is more - this or my hydrofluoric acid idea!

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

262 months

Sunday 14th November 2004
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Flat in Fifth said:

Pigeon said:
I believe the lenses are made of expensive bulletproof glass. Paint, vaseline or resin would be quite easy to clean off. Hydrofluoric acid would be a different matter...


even the thought of someone going round firing pellets of hydrofluoric acid is beyond the conceivable.

Get some of that stuff on you and it is through to the bone before you know you are burnt.


You never watched "ALIEN"

"Acid for blood!!"