Blunkett "loyalty" card
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telecat

Original Poster:

8,528 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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How much more moronic can he get!



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4018939.stm

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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So we should be wary of commercially led ID cards because business can sometimes be shady but we must trust government led ID cards because the government is never shady.

Can you not see the irony David?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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This man is the worse Home Secretary that has ever graced UK politics.

He was on TV Sunday lunch time sprouting utter tripe. He extolled the new Firework Bill as an example of Labours greatness. Funny in this neck of the woods nothing changed. Bloody great bangs for a week before and a week after and well after the 11pm watershed.

He has now suggested that Steetcop, Dibble etc have line bosses who know nought about policing and recruited straight from the Business Sector.

The man Is MAD.

DVD

rich-uk

1,431 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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Plotloss said:

Can you not see the irony David?


zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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Every Home Secretary is more authoritarian than the previous Home Secretary. Who'd have thought that Blunkett could make Michael Howard look like a fluffy bunny?

kevinday

13,832 posts

309 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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Why should we expect individual ministers to be any good when we have the worst government for many a long year?

mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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Blindy Blunkett said:
he would "be remembered as one of the biggest political failures that Britain has ever produced"


Fool!

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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The next step could be airmiles with every fine and points!

D-Angle

4,468 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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BBC news said:
Holding up a Nectar card, he said people voluntarily signed up to allow such details to be collected through such loyalty cards by private firms.

"There is a real issue about how that should be overseen and supervised," said Mr Blunkett.
For all we know, he could have meant to hold up a sample ID card and some evil bugger switched it on him.

piccy mate

541 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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The Blind man who leadeth the blind has never answered my question as to why I should have to pay to have a piece of plastic he wants to make compulsory.
I have a perfectly good Passport and driving licence, both of which give adequate details about me should I need to travel abroad. My Doctor holds my medical records and the RAF still hold an awful lot of information on me.
If they want to know any more about me then they can write and ask!
Piccy

andygo

7,393 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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One of Plunkers ideas is that an ID card would reinforce other identity proofs.

So a terrorist (of which we have thousands - not) walking our streets would quiver with anxiety in the thought that he did not have an id card to reinforce all his other forged ID such as passport etc.

Yeh, right!

I choose to have a switch card for my convenience, and that is more informative to a govt. than a nectar card which is only used in a few outlets.

What a load of interfering pratts this government is.

Scary in both their plans and incompetence. Our only hope is that they will feck it up like everything else they get involved in. Trouble is, we are all paying for this gravy train.

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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The fool is just clutching at straws.

hornet

6,333 posts

279 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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The man is deranged. There are undoubtedly privacy issues
relating to loyalty cards, but they are VOLUNTARY. I don't recall anyone demanding I get a Nectar card, stick my biometric details on it and then charge me for the privilege!

As for ID cards combatting terrorism...worked like a charm in Spain hasn't it?

JMGS4

8,931 posts

299 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Mr Blunkett is putting his reputation on the line
(WHAT REPUTATION FFS the guys a dangerous NUTTER!!!!)

People should not distrust ID cards because they are a state idea, he said.

This is just the type of lie that the NSDAP told the germans in 1931 when they took power and look where that got them!!!
Noo Labia = socio-fascists need no less than eliminating!!!!!!

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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JMGS4 said:
Mr Blunkett is putting his reputation on the line
(WHAT REPUTATION FFS the guys a dangerous NUTTER!!!!)

People should not distrust ID cards because they are a state idea, he said.

This is just the type of lie that the NSDAP told the germans in 1931 when they took power and look where that got them!!!
Noo Labia = socio-fascists need no less than eliminating!!!!!!


People don't distrust them "because they are a state idea". The distrust them because they distrust Bliar and Bluckwitt.

When I was in Sainsbury's last week, I was offered a loyalty card, but when I said "no thanks" the lady on the till did not threaten me, or try to fine me or arrest me.

Odd that.

JamieT

1,536 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Once they've wasted millions on IT consultants the system wont work anyway. Look at the new NHS booking system, spent millions on the start on the first phase of the largest multi-billion £ IT project ever in the UK and its ed up already. They have only just discovered that within the system, anyone with access (from receptionists through to consultants and managers) can read anyone's medical records they choose. And they wonder why we're worried about ID cards! What a bunch of useless of tw@ts we let ourselves be led by.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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I have often wondered how to get in on government project IT scams.

For what is in all respects an exceptionally simple design they seem to make an awful lot of dough it up and I quite fancy a bit of that action...

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Plotloss said:
I have often wondered how to get in on government project IT scams.

For what is in all respects an exceptionally simple design they seem to make an awful lot of dough it up and I quite fancy a bit of that action...

Same here.
However, it's fiking frustrating to work on these big government projects.

JamieT

1,536 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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My mate works for IBM and has just been a consultant on a new system with the DVLA so that we lucky people can buy our car tax on-line. It cost millions. Admittedly, it was quite complicated because they have to tie in the central car insurance and MOT databases. But still, he gets paid about £90k p/a and stays in the best hotels (or they rent a posh flat for him) and he travels everywhere 1st class. By the way, he's 26 and knows very little about IT - he got a masters in engineering and is a good bullshitter, they sent him on a 6 week Java course in the States and now, only a year or two later, and he's a an expert consulting on government IT projects.


>> Edited by JamieT on Thursday 18th November 09:52

Flat in Fifth

48,741 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th November 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
This man is the worse Home Secretary that has ever graced UK politics.


Hear hear in spades.

Dwight VanDriver said:
He was on TV Sunday lunch time sprouting utter tripe. He extolled the new Firework Bill as an example of Labours greatness. Funny in this neck of the woods nothing changed. Bloody great bangs for a week before and a week after and well after the 11pm watershed.


not to mention the ones set off at 11.01 pm as a way of speaking to the authorities with forked fingers.
Anyone seen a reduction in prats driving about with mobiles stuck to their shell likes? Well yes albeit marginal, but a corresponding increase in prats parked in dam' silly places to answer that call.

Dwight VanDriver said:
He has now suggested that Steetcop, Dibble etc have line bosses who know nought about policing and recruited straight from the Business Sector.


That is something that I warned was coming some months back. Sorry to take a told you so stance.

Dwight VanDriver said:
The man Is MAD.


No I don't think he is mad, extremely misguided, ill advised by his staff, and I think the fact that he is blind does actually mean that he is seriously unable to do his job properly. I know that is totally unPC but it is what I believe.

Dopy David was head of Sheffield council when I was back in S Yorks. At first when you hear him he seems impressive, good grasp of the details, articulate etc.

THEN you suss him. It's as if he has in his head a list of standard answers. When asked a question, like a juke box, brain whirs to disk X6 and starts to play. The fact he isn't answering the question but trotting out more of the Labour dogma is irrelevant it seems.

When you hand it out to them when intercepted by pavement campaigners.....
[Cpl Jones mode]
They don't like it up 'em
[/Cpl Jones]

Brown and Blunkett, two most dangerous criminals in Britain.


>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Thursday 18th November 10:08