One for plod - how well are your cars treated?
One for plod - how well are your cars treated?
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Chicken

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143 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I've just seen an ex-TVP unmarked Mondeo ST220 for sale on my Facebook feed.
It's a tempting looking motor, but I was wondering how well looked after police cars are?

I know from personal experience that I wouldn't touch ex-Ambo cars with a barge pole (they're generally ragged to fk and treated like st by the occupants), are the police the same?

Cheers guys

Tron1

120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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If it's ex-TVP it will have probably been a driving school car so will not have had any smelly customers in and the driving school cars are generally well looked after!

Tron1

120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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If it's ex-TVP it will have probably been a driving school car so will not have had any smelly customers in and the driving school cars are generally well looked after!

simon1987

401 posts

166 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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They dont get looked after at all, ragged about 24/7. All manner of scum in the seats. etc

ben5732

763 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Ex plod Volvo here, owned over two years owes me around £50 in repairs i'd buy ex plod again anyday of the week.

klingelton

70 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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mechanically sympathetic? No. Well maintained? Yes.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I would never, EVER consider buying an ex response/traffic car. They get hammered, day in, day out, by a variety of drivers of various (usually poor) standards.
Only plus thing us that they are serviced regularly.
They will have been ragged from cold, clutch and nearly every perishable part will have been pushed to its limit, and the car itself will usually have been the base/most standard model available even when it was new.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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I have reconsidered. If you can get it cheap, you could make your money back on the drugs, weapons and other contraband that you'll find down behind the back seats. That'll offset any outgoings on the repairs you'll need!

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Body work can be rough they do get a hard time in a lot of cases but mechanically they are normally very well looked after and want for nothing.

Greendubber

15,387 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Not well.

All the servicing in the world cant make up for a lifetime of banging over speedbumps, getting hammered from cold and getting rammed.

Never in a million years! Plus with budget cuts our cars dont get as well looked after as the garages are all being 'centralised' (closed).

RogueTrooper

882 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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klingelton said:
mechanically sympathetic? No. Well maintained? Yes.
Kept road-legal, yes, but I wouldn't agree that they are particularly well maintained. Ours are serviced at the manufacturer-recommended mileages and not before.

An ex traffic or response vehicle will probably have had panels and windows replaced after collisions, intentional damage, being driven over uneven surfaces. It will have unusual holes in the trim. Ours are generally expected to cover 40,000 miles a year and we're keeping them longer too.

Unless it's an exceptional car in some way, I wouldn't touch one unless desperate for cheap short-term transport.


Greendubber

15,387 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Our last batch are 18 months old and are on 90k miles biggrin

340600

610 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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Chicken said:
I know from personal experience that I wouldn't touch ex-Ambo cars with a barge pole (they're generally ragged to fk and treated like st by the occupants), are the police the same?
You're not far off there. wink

Ours are on the go all day every day and lead a hard life. It would have to be for absolute peanuts for me to consider buying one. Go in with your eyes open and don't expect it to be tidy/clean/reliable.

I've seen a few of our old BMW's for sale for £10k+, anyone who pays that much for an ex-police vehicle needs their head examined.

bobthebench

398 posts

294 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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I've had nothing but ex plod traffic cars for the last 15 years or so with little problem. Mechanically been well looked after, bodywork will be very patchy depending on individual car, with some holes in roof and dash quite typical. Beware though if not buying direct. If this is your thing, check out West Oxfordshire Motor Auctions, who do police sales twice a month. They declare known faults, provide service histories etc. These are cars which only 2 or 3 weeks earlier were still in service, and could be called upon for high speed pursuits so will be mechanically sound. BCA also list on their website if you join.

Expect mileage into 6 figures, but priced to allow for this. The executive diesels can reach £6000 to £10,000 (530, X5, Range Rovers), the big petrol engine saloons probably £2500 to £4000 for most. Cars typically 3 to 5 year old.

Some manufacturer's will underwrite major mechanical components to 200 or 300,000 miles for the big traffic cars for while driven hard, they are built to cope with it. Don't touch the smaller area type cars like Focus/Astra size. They generally don't take the abuse as well.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
I would never, EVER consider buying an ex response/traffic car. They get hammered, day in, day out, by a variety of drivers of various (usually poor) standards.
I realise that I am probably taking what you've said more literally than you have intended, but do you feel that your poor driving comment applies equally to the trained drivers as it does to the lower graded drivers?

andygo

7,421 posts

286 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Many years ago I bought an ex plod mk2 Escort to turn into a rally car.

It was pretty tired but I was amazed to find whilst under the car that the front anti roll bar bush was worn and had been 'repaired' by wrapping s section of inner tube rubber around the roll bar and forced into the gap! That sort of summed up its apparent servicing.

I also understood that in Liverpool they had a fleet of MK2 RS2000's. Pretty much every one was written off in crashes...

And from general observation, they all have indestructible suspension the way the drivers bang them up the kerb outside not only the pie shop, but the doughnut shop as well! smile

Devil2575

13,400 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
and the car itself will usually have been the base/most standard model available even when it was new.
Or worse.

I once went to view an ex Police 5 series and even features like the cruise control and climate that were standard across the range had been removed.

WilliamWoollard

2,507 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Op, what colour is it? Got any pics? Being a mondeo it's highly likely its a driving school car. Pretty much the entire tvp fleet was vauxhall until recently. Except 4x4s, vans and driving school.

Zammy

713 posts

194 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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Was once a witness to an rta and had the plod round my house the next day for a statement. Ended up chatting more about their fleet, the cop was a petrol head too. They had a couple ST220 estates in their fleet and he said they were hated by all the coppers and couldn't wait to get rid of them. This was a while back but I do remember him saying the seats were ripping apart like they were made of paper.