How long is this idiocy going to continue?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594988/Co...
Woman on a Due Care and Attention ticket for drinking in standing traffic.
We've had incidents with an apple, a KitKat and drinks over the years, but nothing of late. Now we get another one.
How can police officers expect respect when some of their number engage in tripe like this?
Woman on a Due Care and Attention ticket for drinking in standing traffic.
We've had incidents with an apple, a KitKat and drinks over the years, but nothing of late. Now we get another one.
How can police officers expect respect when some of their number engage in tripe like this?
Derek Smith said:
I feel certain that the circumstances as reported in the DM article are the only ones relevant. There is nothing else to it. She was, I most certainly believe, stationary in traffic and merely took a sip from the drink.
What motive could there be for the DM to distort and lie?
Totally agree. I'm sure her driving was otherwise exemplary.What motive could there be for the DM to distort and lie?
Especially as for s3, evidence of bad driving is required, otherwise they could have just relied on not in proper control, which requires less to prove.
What's the bets the subject is a friend or relative of a journo or suchlike?
Why do the media persist in saying "The Police fined......".
The Police can fine no-one. The only legal 'fine' is one applied by a proper court.
All the Police can do is to issue a 'Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty' which the accused can challenge in a court and get heard, using a lawyer is necessary. So in this instance why did the Ka driver not reject the COFP and 'see them in court' with the absolute defence that when stationary it is impossible for the accused's driving to fall below that expected of a careful driver? Or was she driving with a can of drink in one hand which she was supping with a straw whilst moving? Who knows what the evidence might be, or with the reputation the Old Bill are getting themselves of late what it might be 'adjusted' to be.
The Police can fine no-one. The only legal 'fine' is one applied by a proper court.
All the Police can do is to issue a 'Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty' which the accused can challenge in a court and get heard, using a lawyer is necessary. So in this instance why did the Ka driver not reject the COFP and 'see them in court' with the absolute defence that when stationary it is impossible for the accused's driving to fall below that expected of a careful driver? Or was she driving with a can of drink in one hand which she was supping with a straw whilst moving? Who knows what the evidence might be, or with the reputation the Old Bill are getting themselves of late what it might be 'adjusted' to be.
TheBear said:
"How long is this idiocy going to continue?"
As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
All right, forget this story and let's discuss the last one involving an apple, where plod stated this was a such a serious offence it justified time in the air for their helicopter to film the location for the court.As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
Over to you...
mybrainhurts said:
TheBear said:
"How long is this idiocy going to continue?"
As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
All right, forget this story and let's discuss the last one involving an apple, where plod stated this was a such a serious offence it justified time in the air for their helicopter to film the location for the court.As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
Over to you...
The helicopter wouldn't be sent up for that purpose, it would just film the junction whilst flying over.
Cooperman said:
Why do the media persist in saying "The Police fined......".
The Police can fine no-one. The only legal 'fine' is one applied by a proper court.
All the Police can do is to issue a 'Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty' which the accused can challenge in a court and get heard, using a lawyer is necessary. So in this instance why did the Ka driver not reject the COFP and 'see them in court' with the absolute defence that when stationary it is impossible for the accused's driving to fall below that expected of a careful driver? Or was she driving with a can of drink in one hand which she was supping with a straw whilst moving? Who knows what the evidence might be, or with the reputation the Old Bill are getting themselves of late what it might be 'adjusted' to be.
I'm not sure it is an absolute defence to show that your vehicle was stationary.The Police can fine no-one. The only legal 'fine' is one applied by a proper court.
All the Police can do is to issue a 'Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty' which the accused can challenge in a court and get heard, using a lawyer is necessary. So in this instance why did the Ka driver not reject the COFP and 'see them in court' with the absolute defence that when stationary it is impossible for the accused's driving to fall below that expected of a careful driver? Or was she driving with a can of drink in one hand which she was supping with a straw whilst moving? Who knows what the evidence might be, or with the reputation the Old Bill are getting themselves of late what it might be 'adjusted' to be.
You can be still driving a vehicle when stationary. Indeed, you can still be driving a car when you are outside it.
mybrainhurts said:
TheBear said:
"How long is this idiocy going to continue?"
As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
All right, forget this story and let's discuss the last one involving an apple, where plod stated this was a such a serious offence it justified time in the air for their helicopter to film the location for the court.As long as people have keyboards and swallow everything they read, then at a guess...until the end of time??
Over to you...
I can only imagine the lady's surprise when just sitting there, stationary and taking a slurp that she was "fined".
I guess such was the ferocity of the slurp that the officer (having a bad day/jobsworth/bullied at school) had to call for assistance from not 1 or 2 officers, but 3 whole officers.
So 4 officers dealing with a slurp. She's lucky to be alive.
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