HADECS 3 cameras on the M25

[Andyuk911]

old news I suspect, but new to the M25(this type).

Please see :-

http://www.redflex.com/index.php/en/media-centre-r...

Redflex are the company that make HADECS3

These have been fitted between J5 and J6 on the M25, which I assume will be operational when the road works have finished.

They are to enforce the reduced speed limit in congestion, however I seen no reason why they will not enforce the 70mph limit within ACPO guide lines, after all they are fully digital and on a comms line.


Pictures from a mate:-







Just thought people would like to see.

[Dr Mike Oxgreen]

Any pictures of what they look like from behind? That's the view one needs to look out for...

[Terminator X]

Other M25 variable limit camera's don't enforce until you hit 90mph ish allegedly ie you'd need to be motoring to get a ticket.

TX.

[CoolHands]

there was a thread about these on the m1 or somewhere recently someone was asking what they were. Can't find the thread now. They eventually disappeared, so aren't necessarily permanent.

edit - found it:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by CoolHands on Saturday 26th April 11:47

[shep1001]

CoolHands said:

there was a thread about these on the m1 or somewhere recently someone was asking what they were. Can't find the thread now. They eventually disappeared, so aren't necessarily permanent.

edit - found it:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by CoolHands on Saturday 26th April 11:47

The one just before J12 S/B that dissapeared has popped up again N/B just before J8 where there is also one on the S/B side if you look over.

[mybrainhurts]

Dr Mike Oxgreen said:

Any pictures of what they look like from behind? That's the view one needs to look out for...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Jagmanv12]

I was going in the same direction as the OP a couple of hours ago and that camera flashed somebody on the other carriageway so it's working now in the 50 limit.

[mybrainhurts]

I saw it on the M1 several months ago J13-ish, as in my photos above.

There was no lower speed limit on display and it was flashing every 1-2 seconds in heavy traffic.

[Cyberprog]

Odd that a single camera is now sufficient - the new cameras on the m4/m5 round Bristol have a camera per lane and I regularly see those flashing away at people during my commute.

[rallycross]

We drove round there yesterday, there was a long 50 section (J7 to J5 had 50 limit shown) but there were no yellow specs camera's going anti clockwise, but we could see them on the clockwise side (yellow specs cameras).

Are these new camera's in force now, and anyone know what is the margin above 50?

[mybrainhurts]

Cyberprog said:

Odd that a single camera is now sufficient - the new cameras on the m4/m5 round Bristol have a camera per lane and I regularly see those flashing away at people during my commute.

The gantries still have cameras behind each speed limit red circle.

This new beastie is not one of those.

[SVTRick]

Looks like a job for a long reach Gas Axe

[PoleDriver]

Surely they are to police the use of the hard shoulder? On this stretch the hard shoulder is sometimes an extra lane to relieve congestion. Red cross on gantry=don't use hard shoulder as a lane=camera on.

[Landshark]

PoleDriver said:

Surely they are to police the use of the hard shoulder? On this stretch the hard shoulder is sometimes an extra lane to relieve congestion. Red cross on gantry=don't use hard shoulder as a lane=camera on.

Not on this section, this is an All Lane Running Motorway, there is no hard shoulder at all.

(Different to a managed motorway or to a hard shoulder running motorway)

[s p a c e m a n]

And even when someone does break down on the road the gantries don't change. Saw a couple people changing a tyre on a transit in lane 1 last week, gantries all turned off.

The bloke with the spanner had some big bks relying on his mate to shout out as he was just lighting a fag as I drove past with his back to the traffic because of the wind

[SonicShadow]

mybrainhurts said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

They are more visible than the ones that are behind the signs on the gantry, assuming they are all going to be mounted like that.

[PoleDriver]

Landshark said:

PoleDriver said:

Surely they are to police the use of the hard shoulder? On this stretch the hard shoulder is sometimes an extra lane to relieve congestion. Red cross on gantry=don't use hard shoulder as a lane=camera on.

Not on this section, this is an All Lane Running Motorway, there is no hard shoulder at all.

(Different to a managed motorway or to a hard shoulder running motorway)

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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[mybrainhurts]

SonicShadow said:

mybrainhurts said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

They are more visible than the ones that are behind the signs on the gantry, assuming they are all going to be mounted like that.

Not quite sure what you mean. This thing is in addition to the variable speed limit cameras that hang behind the speed limit signs overhead on the gantries. Those are active when the speed limit is below 70 (for now) but this new thing appears to be on all the time.

[SonicShadow]

mybrainhurts said:

Not quite sure what you mean. This thing is in addition to the variable speed limit cameras that hang behind the speed limit signs overhead on the gantries. Those are active when the speed limit is below 70 (for now) but this new thing appears to be on all the time.

Ah, I assumed these were replacing the current ones.

[Landshark]

PoleDriver said:

Landshark said:

PoleDriver said:

Surely they are to police the use of the hard shoulder? On this stretch the hard shoulder is sometimes an extra lane to relieve congestion. Red cross on gantry=don't use hard shoulder as a lane=camera on.

Not on this section, this is an All Lane Running Motorway, there is no hard shoulder at all.

(Different to a managed motorway or to a hard shoulder running motorway)

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

?????????????????????

These photos are not from the new scheme between J6 and J5 though where there isn't a hard shoulder, tge above shows a hard shoulder running motorway a la M6!!

I see if I can post a picture!!