Death notice in local paper
Discussion
Corpulent Tosser said:
vladcjelli said:
What is it for?
To let people know about the death ?Dave hedgehog said:
something about immediate family
What do they class as immediate family. No marriage (long term partner), no kids but a few surviving siblings.vladcjelli said:
Is there something regarding their estate that we need to know about?
Yes, a bunch of made up people on a car forum will really know about the estate of some un named person. Yep, all the details are right here on file. Good job you were sensible and called us first rather than doing anything stupid like ringing up the people listed in the notice. O/T: When I am King, no one will be allowed to inherit anything except personal mementos. All the loot will go to charidee. The idea of getting money for nothing because someone had died has always struck me as daft. OK, I am exaggerating, but only a bit.
Not specifically their estate Breadvan, but there must be a more likely scenario that people have experience of.
In all honesty when I posted, it was your name I was hoping to see amongst the replies, as a learned man of letters.
Not quite the tone of reply I was looking forward to, but beggars can't be choosers, can they?
In all honesty when I posted, it was your name I was hoping to see amongst the replies, as a learned man of letters.
Not quite the tone of reply I was looking forward to, but beggars can't be choosers, can they?
Breadvan72 said:
O/T: When I am King, no one will be allowed to inherit anything except personal mementos. All the loot will go to charidee. The idea of getting money for nothing because someone had died has always struck me as daft.
Really? Cos the idea that it might be anybody else's business who I choose to give stuff to when I've finished with it has always struck me as daft.When were you planning you accession to the throne? I only ask because it sounds like I'm going to have plan for raising an army and sacking your kingdom, and I'm in the middle of trying to move house right now so if it was any time in the next couple of months that would be bloody inconvenient.
Could we fit in a spell of bloody conflict followed by an uneasy peace and mutual recriminations in about six weeks? Simple rules: No dragons.
I know mostly jack about probate and inheritance and such. The basis rule is that anyone can leave whatever they like to whomever they like, but there are some exceptions, some to do with dependents and some to do with charideeze and such. Anyway, if interested in the Will of the deceased, contact the people who placed the ad.
I know mostly jack about probate and inheritance and such. The basis rule is that anyone can leave whatever they like to whomever they like, but there are some exceptions, some to do with dependents and some to do with charideeze and such. Anyway, if interested in the Will of the deceased, contact the people who placed the ad.
Breadvan72 said:
Could we fit in a spell of bloody conflict followed by an uneasy peace and mutual recriminations in about six weeks? Simple rules: No dragons.
I know mostly jack about probate and inheritance and such. The basis rule is that anyone can leave whatever they like to whomever they like, but there are some exceptions, some to do with dependents and some to do with charideeze and such. Anyway, if interested in the Will of the deceased, contact the people who placed the ad.
Awww, and I'd just had the old flame breather serviced too.I know mostly jack about probate and inheritance and such. The basis rule is that anyone can leave whatever they like to whomever they like, but there are some exceptions, some to do with dependents and some to do with charideeze and such. Anyway, if interested in the Will of the deceased, contact the people who placed the ad.
I had already suggested and drafted a short letter out for Mrs Cjelli to offer her side of the family, just as you had suggested. Just wondered if anyone else had any experience of the trials and tribulations of these sort of things.
P.S. And you smell too.
vladcjelli said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
vladcjelli said:
What is it for?
To let people know about the death ?Its purpose is to protect the executor/administrator who might face a wholly unexpected late claim from a creditor. Without it, the former would be personally liable for the full amount owed long after the estate distribution had been completed.
vladcjelli said:
Dave hedgehog said:
something about immediate family
What do they class as immediate family. No marriage (long term partner), no kids but a few surviving siblings.If nobody comes forward it will end up Bona Vacantia and the Treasury Solicitor will deal with it (where there is/are no claimant(s) the Government pockets anything left over after debts and funeral expenses are paid). If the estate is substantial enough heir hunters will be sniffing around to see if they can find some long lost relative they can tap for a commission percentage.
Thanks for the info Red, a very thorough reply.
In the event of there being no will, who appoints the executors of the deceased estate? As far as we can tell, none of the blood relatives have engaged the services of the solicitors named in the notice. If it is the long term partner who has contacted them, could they be trying to ensure they are sole beneficiary to the estate?
How thorough are executors when checking the correct intestacy, when they have potentially have someone standing right in front of them expecting to inherit?
There are underlying sub plots to this, as I expect there are in many cases of this type, and I would just like to know that there are no sharp operators exerting influence where they shouldn't be at a vulnerable time.
In the event of there being no will, who appoints the executors of the deceased estate? As far as we can tell, none of the blood relatives have engaged the services of the solicitors named in the notice. If it is the long term partner who has contacted them, could they be trying to ensure they are sole beneficiary to the estate?
How thorough are executors when checking the correct intestacy, when they have potentially have someone standing right in front of them expecting to inherit?
There are underlying sub plots to this, as I expect there are in many cases of this type, and I would just like to know that there are no sharp operators exerting influence where they shouldn't be at a vulnerable time.
Breadvan72]O/T: [Snip said:
The idea of getting money for nothing because someone had died has always struck me as daft. OK, I am exaggerating, but only a bit.
Pretty much sums up my feelings on Death Duties...Oh! Your loved one has died? Well, in the middle of sorting out a funeral, the estate and trying to grieve we'd like to demand you pay a large percentage of the money they'd earned, saved and already paid tax on, to us, for no reason other than they're dead and we set the law of the land.
To me it's totally ethically indefensible (but a very nice money spinner).
'The only thing certain in life is death and taxes' - and the cheeky sods tax death as well!!
No, and I am not really opposed to all inheritance. I am putting forward a debating idea. I raise the question (seriously) of whether our expectations of ways of becoming wealthy have a distorting effect on how we go about things. One of the Rockefellers, I think it was, who said that you should give your children enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing.
Breadvan72 said:
Joking apart, why should we expect to obtain wealth on the death of loved ones?
I think of it the other way around - from the point of view of the person whose wealth it is. Why should we not expect to be able to choose who to give our stuff to? If I have some stuff and I want to give it to my relatives, or to Battersea Dogs Home, or to you, why shouldn't that be where it goes?But I wouldn't go campaigning to abolish inheritance tax because that reasoning could probably be applied to any tax. If I've agreed with an employer that in exchange for a certain amount of money, I'll do some work for them, why should anybody else get any of that money? I think trying to justify the principle behind any particular tax is a dead end. The only justification for any of it is that Governments need tax. And I quite like having roads to drive on when I need to get to work.
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