NO PARKING cones
Discussion
Our local newsagent parks on the street outside his shop in one spot and puts cones out a bit further along the road. The road is short term parking for 30 minutes at a time. Every now and again he moves his van to the spot where the cones are and shifts the cones into the space he has left. He doesn't seem to realise that he is affecting all businesses in an area of limited parking by selfishly hogging two spaces all day. I always drive over them to flatten them if I see them whether I want to park there or not just to annoy him as much as he annoys me.
My reason for asking turned out to be a utility company or their sub contractor digging up the pavement on the opposite side of the road. Small work, all done, cones gone.
I still wonder what would be the outcome of having parked where the cones are when the work crew turn up . . . . . .
I still wonder what would be the outcome of having parked where the cones are when the work crew turn up . . . . . .
vanordinaire said:
Our local newsagent parks on the street outside his shop in one spot and puts cones out a bit further along the road. The road is short term parking for 30 minutes at a time. Every now and again he moves his van to the spot where the cones are and shifts the cones into the space he has left. He doesn't seem to realise that he is affecting all businesses in an area of limited parking by selfishly hogging two spaces all day. I always drive over them to flatten them if I see them whether I want to park there or not just to annoy him as much as he annoys me.
I'd be careful doing this, you will likely have caused damage to someone's property, this could mean it would fall in to the definition of an accident, the daily mail article about you being done for hit and run and having an insurance claim made against you for scuffing a £10 cone might make an amusing read. Send them a copy of this -
It has been observed recently that the offence of obstructing a public highway has occurred on numerous occasions at your address.
Items such as Traffic Cones, Refuse Bins, Wood, ladders, Bricks, not authorised by the Local Authority are classed as unlawful.
Highways Act 1980 Section 148 ©
if without lawful authority or excuse—
© a person, deposits anything whatsoever on a highway to the interruption of any user of the highway he is guilty of an offence.
Highways Act 1980 Section 137
if without lawful authority or excuse—
a person, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence.
This matter has been reported to the local Police and Highways Agency for further investigation and possible prosecution.
It has been observed recently that the offence of obstructing a public highway has occurred on numerous occasions at your address.
Items such as Traffic Cones, Refuse Bins, Wood, ladders, Bricks, not authorised by the Local Authority are classed as unlawful.
Highways Act 1980 Section 148 ©
if without lawful authority or excuse—
© a person, deposits anything whatsoever on a highway to the interruption of any user of the highway he is guilty of an offence.
Highways Act 1980 Section 137
if without lawful authority or excuse—
a person, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence.
This matter has been reported to the local Police and Highways Agency for further investigation and possible prosecution.
ging84 said:
I'd be careful doing this, you will likely have caused damage to someone's property, this could mean it would fall in to the definition of an accident, the daily mail article about you being done for hit and run and having an insurance claim made against you for scuffing a £10 cone might make an amusing read.
It is not a reportable accident. You could be prosecuted for criminal damage though.No parking cones have no legal standing unless there is an order, a sort of local bye law, in existence.
I had a run-in with a foul mouthed slapper outside a bookies in Fleet.
She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
I once, a long time ago, took up some traffic cones, the yellow 'Police' ones, that a local idiot had 'stolen' and was using to reserve the space outside his house. I dropped them off at the local nick, after clearing it with a friend who worked there.
If you don't have cones, just use something else...
...this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this w
ker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.
She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
I once, a long time ago, took up some traffic cones, the yellow 'Police' ones, that a local idiot had 'stolen' and was using to reserve the space outside his house. I dropped them off at the local nick, after clearing it with a friend who worked there.
If you don't have cones, just use something else...
...this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this w
ker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.yellowjack said:
I had a run-in with a foul mouthed slapper outside a bookies in Fleet.
She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
"Local business woman who employs local people to run a local business has to deal with an obstreperous and obstructive driver who had nothing better to do than prevent essential repairs to the local business premises."She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
yellowjack said:
If you don't have cones, just use something else...
...this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this wker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.
Move bike to pavement, park car in space?...this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this w
ker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.The lesser witted may just run it over and leave it under the wheels of the vehicle whilst parked.
V8 Fettler said:
"Local business woman who employs local people to run a local business has to deal with an obstreperous and obstructive driver who had nothing better to do than prevent essential repairs to the local business premises."
I don't have any strong opinion either way about YJ's parking but bookies definitely have a net negative effect on the local economy, they are not a boon in any way; the only beneficiaries are the shareholders of BetPeteTotesWinLOL and the occupant of No. 11 Downing St.V8 Fettler said:
yellowjack said:
I had a run-in with a foul mouthed slapper outside a bookies in Fleet.
She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
"Local business woman who employs local people to run a local business has to deal with an obstreperous and obstructive driver who had nothing better to do than prevent essential repairs to the local business premises."She was the manager of the betting shop, and as I (legally) parked my car in a short term (30 minute) space outside the shop, she was fetching more cones from the shop, having already coned off a car's worth of space. She ran up to me, and pretty much ORDERED me to move so she could put the cones out. When I questioned her reason and authority, she became abusive, so I refused to move. She went mental. Apparently she 'needed' the space for a window fitter to repair the shop window. I pointed to the space further up the road, where said fitter was waiting in his van, and asked how I might legally park there, as it was for commercial vehicles only. But no, instead of a short walk to the job, they were insisting that it was OK to take up two car spaces (parking is VERY limited). I may have childishly used up all thirty of my permitted minutes, despite only really needing about 15 of them
As it was, her language and attitude were enough to have lost her her job, had I had the means to record it. Suffice to say, "you reap what you sow"
ETA: I was visiting a 'real' shop, spending money with a 'real' business, which employs far less foul mouthed people, with a tangible product to carry home too. Her trying to take up multiple spaces outside her own premises, when the window fitter's van was already in a commercial vehicle space within sight of the job anyway, would potentially put off customers both to her betting shop, and the many 'real' businesses around her.
Edited by yellowjack on Monday 19th May 18:43
yellowjack said:
If you don't have cones, just use something else...
...this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this wker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.
I'm just surprised it hasn't been nicked....this bike is regularly used by a NIMBY resident near Frimley Park Hospital. They used to be plagued by staff from the hospital parking there (the whole estate, I mean) all day, but successfully got lots of double and single line timed restrictions in place. It's not good enough for this w
ker though, so he 'reserves' the spot outside his house with this 'parked' bike all day everyday.
Often see hotels in London put a few cones outside their doors to reserve spaces for their guests' cars and/or valet parking manoeuvres. I've often wondered if you'd end up with a threatening doorman on your case if you dared move them and park there (whilst not staying at the hotel). maybe they just put them out and rely on the majority of people moving on and finding somewhere else to park.
Builders, scaffolders, removal lorries etc in London at least, can and should be booking spaces they need reserving for their deliveries etc with the relevant borough, and most do, but many of them don't want to pay the associated fees. I always think fair enough when it's just a one off and they've got up early enough to put their barrels or whatever out in the space. But did have a whole house refurb going on for months and months in the street where I park which is all resident permit and often short of spaces and they were putting pallets in the spaces every night, got the council to send someone round one day and have a word and that soon stopped. I've had to pay for my local borough residents parking permit, as far as I'm concerned builders can pay their way too with a proper council reservation if they want the space for days or weeks on end.
Builders, scaffolders, removal lorries etc in London at least, can and should be booking spaces they need reserving for their deliveries etc with the relevant borough, and most do, but many of them don't want to pay the associated fees. I always think fair enough when it's just a one off and they've got up early enough to put their barrels or whatever out in the space. But did have a whole house refurb going on for months and months in the street where I park which is all resident permit and often short of spaces and they were putting pallets in the spaces every night, got the council to send someone round one day and have a word and that soon stopped. I've had to pay for my local borough residents parking permit, as far as I'm concerned builders can pay their way too with a proper council reservation if they want the space for days or weeks on end.
hidetheelephants said:
V8 Fettler said:
"Local business woman who employs local people to run a local business has to deal with an obstreperous and obstructive driver who had nothing better to do than prevent essential repairs to the local business premises."
I don't have any strong opinion either way about YJ's parking but bookies definitely have a net negative effect on the local economy, they are not a boon in any way; the only beneficiaries are the shareholders of BetPeteTotesWinLOL and the occupant of No. 11 Downing St.It's a view!
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