Landlords fridge damage
Discussion
Leaving my rented accommodation and its was a brand new house with fridge as it was barretts view home before my landlord bought it.
The fridge is oversized for the kitchen it inter-fears the swing of the kitchen door.
I asked when taking the house if a restrictor or doorstop could be put it to stop it hitting the fridge door and was told no.
The inevitable has happened and there is a small dent in the fridge door.
I have not moved out yet but brought it up as an issued to be resolved. I offered £100 and I have been told to get a replacement fridge of same make or model (£375 as its whirpool) or a new door. I am struggling to get a new door but they are £233.
I appreciates the landlords position as it was all brand new however since its only going to happen again it seems mad to waste the cash.
If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
The fridge is oversized for the kitchen it inter-fears the swing of the kitchen door.
I asked when taking the house if a restrictor or doorstop could be put it to stop it hitting the fridge door and was told no.
The inevitable has happened and there is a small dent in the fridge door.
I have not moved out yet but brought it up as an issued to be resolved. I offered £100 and I have been told to get a replacement fridge of same make or model (£375 as its whirpool) or a new door. I am struggling to get a new door but they are £233.
I appreciates the landlords position as it was all brand new however since its only going to happen again it seems mad to waste the cash.
If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
jbsportstech said:
If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
If that was obvious in such cases, then the dispute system will be pointless.Did you request the door stop in writing? So, you have evidence to show that you warned the landlord that this would inevitably happen?
If so, then the damage could be argued as inevitable wear and tear, as oppose to negligence.
The other option you have is instead of a new door at £220 is to buy a new fridge at £375 and swop the doors, at least then you have a new fridge to keep with a slightly dented door.
jbsportstech said:
I appreciates the landlords position as it was all brand new however since its only going to happen again it seems mad to waste the cash.
If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
It isn't relevant whether it happens again or not though, is it? That has no bearing on whether you're obliged to make good the damage. If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
As long as you accept that you caused the damage, you're obliged to put it right.
Assuming the deposit is protected and it has some sort of dispute resolution procedure built into it, it's hard to see whoever considers the dispute looking beyond your admission that you, however inadvertently and accidentally, caused the damage and holding you liable to remedy it.
That what I am considering but I have a fridge freezer and this one is so big it wont fit in my new house so would be £400 bevy garage fridge! Its whirlpool and they seem rare and expensive.
I have offered to get a similarly speced and size fridge and that has been rejected must be whirpool and same or very similar model.
Yes I have emails regarding the fitting of the doorstop and rejection that was what I wondered. He has always been very good I just bit annoyed that they seem to being very hardcore on this matter.
jbsportstech said:
That what I am considering but I have a fridge freezer and this one is so big it wont fit in my new house so would be £400 bevy garage fridge!
Nay.If the fridge costs £375, and the door costs £233...
You have a £375 bevy garage fridge for £142. And when you may buy a house or move to one with a crappy small fridge you will be very glad you have a £375 Whirlpool fridge that you only effectively paid £142 extra for.
JustinP1 said:
Nay.
If the fridge costs £375, and the door costs £233...
You have a £375 bevy garage fridge for £142. And when you may buy a house or move to one with a crappy small fridge you will be very glad you have a £375 Whirlpool fridge that you only effectively paid £142 extra for.
whole excise seems a waste of time as it wont eliminate the poorly laid out kitchen issue.If the fridge costs £375, and the door costs £233...
You have a £375 bevy garage fridge for £142. And when you may buy a house or move to one with a crappy small fridge you will be very glad you have a £375 Whirlpool fridge that you only effectively paid £142 extra for.
jbsportstech said:
JustinP1 said:
Nay.
If the fridge costs £375, and the door costs £233...
You have a £375 bevy garage fridge for £142. And when you may buy a house or move to one with a crappy small fridge you will be very glad you have a £375 Whirlpool fridge that you only effectively paid £142 extra for.
whole excise seems a waste of time as it wont eliminate the poorly laid out kitchen issue.If the fridge costs £375, and the door costs £233...
You have a £375 bevy garage fridge for £142. And when you may buy a house or move to one with a crappy small fridge you will be very glad you have a £375 Whirlpool fridge that you only effectively paid £142 extra for.
Unless it is your mission in life to improve the ergonomics of the nations 3,800,000 privately rented properties, why do you care?
It doesn't mean you are not liable. Unless, as I mentioned earlier, your request for a door stop to prevent damage can be evidenced. Can it?
t though. Wouldn't be the first time.jbsportstech said:
I asked when taking the house if a restrictor or doorstop could be put it to stop it hitting the fridge door and was told no.
Did you ask them to put it on?Or did you ask for permission to fit one?
Personally I would have taken action to prevent damage (even sticking something to the door would have worked). I wouldn't have even asked for permission. I would have done it and then reversed it before leaving (and repainted the wall/door).
Think I'd have just put a little doorstop in place myself and then removed it if they were going to be sniffy - something like http://www.doorstopworld.com/edgestop.html for a fiver would do the job I reckon!
But agree, annoying that they're being a bit hardnosed about it - lesson is to put stuff like that in writing if it happens again in another property. But I fear it may well be a case of suck it up & move on. Presumably if they hit you for the cost of a replacement then you've got a perfectly good fridge to take to your next place (or sell for beer tokens...)
But agree, annoying that they're being a bit hardnosed about it - lesson is to put stuff like that in writing if it happens again in another property. But I fear it may well be a case of suck it up & move on. Presumably if they hit you for the cost of a replacement then you've got a perfectly good fridge to take to your next place (or sell for beer tokens...)
STW2010 said:
Did you ask them to put it on?
Or did you ask for permission to fit one?
Personally I would have taken action to prevent damage (even sticking something to the door would have worked). I wouldn't have even asked for permission. I would have done it and then reversed it before leaving (and repainted the wall/door).
Get inspected and its brand new so asked was denied also supposed to use approved contractors to carry out works.Or did you ask for permission to fit one?
Personally I would have taken action to prevent damage (even sticking something to the door would have worked). I wouldn't have even asked for permission. I would have done it and then reversed it before leaving (and repainted the wall/door).
I used a bean bag doorstop but one day the kids moved it.
The landlord wont do anything to prevent it so I just going to buy a 375 fridge and keep the new one best quote for the door 197!
I am still in till june and I decided to seek agreement on it now rather than delay deposit return. I have never lost a penny as I look after the house as I rent mine out and I do making good at the end.
Here is the issue, if you fit a door stop it would restrict the freezer door.
Edited by jbsportstech on Monday 19th May 16:36
Edited by jbsportstech on Monday 19th May 16:41
How long have you been in the property? If a very short time then fair enough, if the time is longer then the landlord can expect fair wear and tear and a dent in a fridge isn't exactly unexpected after a number of years.
Of course if you do pay up, I am sure the landlord will buy a new fridge...
Of course if you do pay up, I am sure the landlord will buy a new fridge...
sugerbear said:
How long have you been in the property? If a very short time then fair enough, if the time is longer then the landlord can expect fair wear and tear and a dent in a fridge isn't exactly unexpected after a number of years.
Of course if you do pay up, I am sure the landlord will buy a new fridge...
I would agree with this. Of course if you do pay up, I am sure the landlord will buy a new fridge...
Does the door actually need to be replaced, how bad is the damage? If it is relatively small and just superficial I would suggest a maximum deduction of £50. If its quite large/bad I can see the justification for replacing the door and would suggest the a percentage of the cost of replacing the door depending on age/length of your Tenancy. General rule of thumb, expected life of a fridge freezer in rented property is 10 years. So for example if your Tenancy was 2 years, then I would suggest a fair deduction be (8/10) x cost of door.
TheHound said:
I would agree with this.
Does the door actually need to be replaced, how bad is the damage? If it is relatively small and just superficial I would suggest a maximum deduction of £50. If its quite large/bad I can see the justification for replacing the door and would suggest the a percentage of the cost of replacing the door depending on age/length of your Tenancy. General rule of thumb, expected life of a fridge freezer in rented property is 10 years. So for example if your Tenancy was 2 years, then I would suggest a fair deduction be (8/10) x cost of door.
Just short of two years and the dent is the little mark that can be seen in the photo.Does the door actually need to be replaced, how bad is the damage? If it is relatively small and just superficial I would suggest a maximum deduction of £50. If its quite large/bad I can see the justification for replacing the door and would suggest the a percentage of the cost of replacing the door depending on age/length of your Tenancy. General rule of thumb, expected life of a fridge freezer in rented property is 10 years. So for example if your Tenancy was 2 years, then I would suggest a fair deduction be (8/10) x cost of door.
I offered £100 it was rejected.
I do like having impartial inventory Clerk as they are less one sided this agent did their eon photo based one and have said any dent needs to be rectified.
Edited by jbsportstech on Monday 19th May 17:45
Lurking Lawyer said:
jbsportstech said:
I appreciates the landlords position as it was all brand new however since its only going to happen again it seems mad to waste the cash.
If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
It isn't relevant whether it happens again or not though, is it? That has no bearing on whether you're obliged to make good the damage. If I held out to deposit dispute what would be their view.
As long as you accept that you caused the damage, you're obliged to put it right.
Assuming the deposit is protected and it has some sort of dispute resolution procedure built into it, it's hard to see whoever considers the dispute looking beyond your admission that you, however inadvertently and accidentally, caused the damage and holding you liable to remedy it.
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