Oops - Britain's Worst Drink Driver Belongs ..
Oops - Britain's Worst Drink Driver Belongs ..
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Mad Moggie

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618 posts

270 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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...to Manchester...


Per Manchester press ... Eccles man Howard Bloor has been dubbed UK's worst drunk driver after receiving his 29th conviction for the offence.

Manchester Mags has jailed him for 6 months.

Bloor (61) was first convicted banned for speeding in 1965.

His first conviction for drink driving occureed in 1968, and this was followed by numerous bans and fines - which means that he has not been legally allowed to drive for most of the past 40 years since 1965....

The magistrates told him he "was a habitual offender with no understanding and remosrse for his offences"

He was stopped in the Manchester City Centre by Manchester's finest earlier in November. Apparently .. he was "leaning out of the window whilst driving his car along one of the main arterial roads in the town centre. He claimed he had only "drunk iced water" But breath test showed him to be one and half times over the legal limit

Bloor's lawyer pleaded with the magistrates not to jail hi, saying that jail had not stopped him re-offending in the past

But the magsdished out another three year ban (which he will ignore again - no doubt) and a six month stay in Strangeways.

The local rag catalogues his shameful past:

1973 - fined £10 and banned for 12 months ...

1974 - Three year ban and three months' jail

1978 - Three more offences and anoth three months jail

1988 - 60 days in jail and three year ban

1989 - Two offences - 12 months probation, a five year ban and £130 fine

1990 - FIVE offences - 6 months jail and another three year ban

1991 - One offence and suspended sentence. Four year ban

1997 - FIVE more offences. 6 months jail and a five year ban

Feb 1999 - three offences six months jail and a three year ban

Dec 1999 - three more offences, 6 months jail and another three year ban

2001 - One offence - two months jail and three year ban

2002 - One offence - five months jail and a three year ban

2004 - one offence, 6 months jail and a three year ban

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The painter and decorator's neighbours say:

"We all know who he is, but we did not know he had been in prison!"

"He is a menace on the roads!"

"He deserves it!"

One woman: "He is not a nice man when he is drunk!"

"I shall probably tell the police next time I see him getting into a car!"

None of his neighbours wanted the paper to name them ....


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But .. this chap will be back on the road - driving with no insurance, no tax and drunk as he takes no notice of any punishment so far dished out to him.

How do we deal with this type? Alcohol locks? Permanent jail? Tagging? Curfew?

Ironically .. he has never been copped by camera ... but by Manchester's Traffic Police - who have at least been fairly visible until this last year when they joined the Prats....

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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Mad Moggie said:

How do we deal with this type? Alcohol locks? Permanent jail? Tagging? Curfew?


How about just poke the twat's eyes out?

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd December 2004
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The man obviously has a problem. Needs help as well as punishment.

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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towman said:
The man obviously has a problem. Needs help as well as punishment.


Believe it or not Towman, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
It never ceases to amaze me yet again how the law just blunders on prosecuting people like this; I mean how many times does he get done before it occurs to just one of these highly educated and qualified prosecutors, lawyers and judges that it's not working.
I cannot understand either why habitual drunk drivers, I mean people who are staggering drunk and on their fourth or fifth offence, are prosecuted for a driving offence; they quite clearly have a serious alcohol addiction; banning them or jailing them can only make it far worse.
If you want to do something creative, treat them for an addictive or psychological illness.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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IOLAIRE said:

Believe it or not Towman, I agree with you wholeheartedly.


And far more eloquently!

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Perhaps it's easier and cheaper (in the short term) to punish someone for drink driving, rather than to deal with their underlying drink problem?

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Dibble said:
Perhaps it's easier and cheaper (in the short term) to punish someone for drink driving, rather than to deal with their underlying drink problem?


I've no doubt that's true Dibble, but the risk is that they just go out and do it after their punishment because they still have the problem; and if they kill someone who saddles the blame?

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Trouble is, some do it DURING their punishment.

Mrs Dibble works in alcohol/drug counselling and the like, fairly high up. It makes her blood boil how little is spent on alcohol problems.

Most people don't realise this costs us all far more than drug use, across a whole range of social issues, not just the obvious costs to the already overstretched health service.

The government (this one and previous ones) spend a fraction on alcohol realted issues to what is spent on drug related issues, and look where it's got us. Binge drinking, anyone?

mad man

203 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Jail them & do compulsory rehabilitation while inside. Until they are assesed as being safe for release they stay locked away, might take a few months or might be locked up for years. If its years screw em, leave them where they cant do the public any harm, its the offenders problem to sort themselves out not ours.

Mr E

23,056 posts

288 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Mad Moggie said:

Bloor's lawyer pleaded with the magistrates not to jail hi, saying that jail had not stopped him re-offending in the past


Eh?

So surely something *worse* than jail should be considered?

leosayer

7,827 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Mr E said:

Mad Moggie said:

Bloor's lawyer pleaded with the magistrates not to jail hi, saying that jail had not stopped him re-offending in the past



Eh?

So surely something *worse* than jail should be considered?


As long as he's in jail, he can't reoffend.

rich-uk

1,431 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd December 2004
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Dibble said:
Trouble is, some do it DURING their punishment.

Mrs Dibble works in alcohol/drug counselling and the like, fairly high up. It makes her blood boil how little is spent on alcohol problems.

Most people don't realise this costs us all far more than drug use, across a whole range of social issues, not just the obvious costs to the already overstretched health service.

The government (this one and previous ones) spend a fraction on alcohol realted issues to what is spent on drug related issues, and look where it's got us. Binge drinking, anyone?


If the populous is steaming drunk, they won't notice what the government is up to...