motorway speed restrictions
motorway speed restrictions
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grumpy52

Original Poster:

6,079 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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It seems to happen more and more that speed restrictions signs show on motorways for no apparent reason , twice it happened today , M3 southbound limit down to 50, no hold ups nothing broken down etc 4 miles later resumed to normal , M20 this afternoon the same thing .
Why ?

MrBarry123

6,109 posts

152 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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grumpy52 said:
It seems to happen more and more that speed restrictions signs show on motorways for no apparent reason , twice it happened today , M3 southbound limit down to 50, no hold ups nothing broken down etc 4 miles later resumed to normal , M20 this afternoon the same thing .
Why ?
Or... The hazard which caused the restriction has been cleared by the time you passed the point of the hazard?

Edited by MrBarry123 on Tuesday 3rd June 17:37

Benbay001

5,895 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Or the traffic was so heavy that it wasnt deemed safe to keep a 70 limit going?

IME motorway speed restrictions are generally very well managed and i usually agree with them.
With the exception of roadwork restrictions being in place 24/7

Jezzerh

816 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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M62 today, Brighouse to Castleford. 40 limit for miles and miles due to 'animals in the road'. No animals in the road. Then, 40 advisory signs due to 'incident'. No incident visible. Then, just last the Selby junction, 50 advisory, no reason given. Saw a police car picking up bits of car from lane 1.

So 2 out of 3 where someone was asleep at the switch and the information was outdated. Not good enough really when the traffic needs to be kept flowing.

corozin

2,680 posts

302 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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In the case of the M3 southbound did it escape the OP's notice that a bloody great stretch of it is dug up where that restriction is in force?

My gripe is that it's only about three years since that exact same section was last completely resurfaced.

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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grumpy52 said:
It seems to happen more and more that speed restrictions signs show on motorways for no apparent reason , twice it happened today , M3 southbound limit down to 50,
Advisory limit or enforcable red circle limit?

grumpy52

Original Poster:

6,079 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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On these occasions , which seem to happen at least a couple of times a week , there is no build up of traffic so whatever has caused the restriction is long long gone, also some night roadworks have no restrictions on speed but down to one lane yet others with two lanes available are restricted to 40mph.

grumpy52

Original Poster:

6,079 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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corozin said:
In the case of the M3 southbound did it escape the OP's notice that a bloody great stretch of it is dug up where that restriction is in force?

My gripe is that it's only about three years since that exact same section was last completely resurfaced.
Not the roadworks section , further south.

grumpy52

Original Poster:

6,079 posts

197 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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lbc said:
grumpy52 said:
It seems to happen more and more that speed restrictions signs show on motorways for no apparent reason , twice it happened today , M3 southbound limit down to 50,
Advisory limit or enforcable red circle limit?
Old style signs just orange numbers, no cameras ( revenue generators)

BossHogg

7,574 posts

209 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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The advisory 50s are normally set following a report from a member of the public, the signs stay on until the area has been checked by the police or us HATOs. Only then are the signs cancelled. wink

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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grumpy52 said:
Old style signs just orange numbers, no cameras ( revenue generators)
Then ignore them, they're only advisory.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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great ,ignore them. then expect ,if you have an accident for the insurers to ask WHY you were driving above the recommended limit. And then quote one expert in vehicle insurance. "Ignore them, they're only advisory. "

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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[quote=Who me ?]great ,ignore them. then expect ,if you have an accident for the insurers to ask WHY you were driving above the recommended limit. And then quote one expert in vehicle insurance. "Ignore them, they're only advisory. "
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Really, you think they'll ask that? Let me see, I wonder if I'd know whether insurers are likely to ask that question. rolleyes

Even if they did, what do think an insurer could do? Quick everyone grab some tinfoil, we're about to get a lesson in millinery

nipsips

1,167 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I've never once asked one of my customers why they were exceeding the speed limit...

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Jezzerh said:
M62 today, Brighouse to Castleford. 40 limit for miles and miles due to 'animals in the road'. No animals in the road. Then, 40 advisory signs due to 'incident'.

So 2 out of 3 where someone was asleep at the switch and the information was outdated. Not good enough really when the traffic needs to be kept flowing.
Or as usual a well meaning MOP who doesn't really have a clue where they are rings in after seeing animals in a field by the side of the motorway but not the fence due to the topography of the area.

Number 2 did you see the plastic container/whatever knocked onto the res or did you drive past it without noticing.

3 you 'spotted' well done smile

Signs are only set from information received unless it is auto midas kicking in, st info in =st info out ?

Next, carry on as you were smile

ging84

9,548 posts

177 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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BossHogg said:
The advisory 50s are normally set following a report from a member of the public, the signs stay on until the area has been checked by the police or us HATOs. Only then are the signs cancelled. wink
This seems like a policy which could be abused to manipulate traffic for all sorts of mischief

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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grumpy52 said:
It seems to happen more and more that speed restrictions signs show on motorways for no apparent reason , twice it happened today , M3 southbound limit down to 50, no hold ups nothing broken down etc 4 miles later resumed to normal , M20 this afternoon the same thing .
Why ?
Probably part of the ongoing policy of deliberately slowing down traffic as usual on the grounds of 'making car use less attractive' and 'meeting CO2 targets' etc etc as opposed to 'sustainable' options like rail.It's only a matter of time before the LabLibDemCons enforce Green Party policy by imposing a 55 mph max limit on the motorway network.

BossHogg

7,574 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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ging84 said:
This seems like a policy which could be abused to manipulate traffic for all sorts of mischief
Not at all, we have key performance indicators (KPIs) which we have to adhere to, for instance, we have to be on scene within a certain amount of time, then the operators also have to turn the signals off within a set time for their KPIs. Our clearance figures come under close scrutiny from our bosses.

tr7v8

7,625 posts

259 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Had the same thing today got on the M25 CW from M26 & went round to J14 Heathrow. Bloody 50-60-50 etc all the way.