Does this merit 6 weeks in prison?
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Sorry for the Mirror link, but the BBC won't print exactly what he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27696446
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ann-maguire-f...
Clearly the blokes a fairly pathetic specimen, but is it really right to criminalize him and impose a prison sentence?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27696446
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ann-maguire-f...
Clearly the blokes a fairly pathetic specimen, but is it really right to criminalize him and impose a prison sentence?
It should never have led to a case being brought to court, or indeed an arrest. He said: "Personally, I'm glad that teacher got stabbed up. Feel sorry for the kid. He should have pissed on her too."
It's a disgusting thing to say, People should think he's absolute scum for saying it, if I were his friend, I'd no longer be but that should be where the line is drawn. You can't lock people up for causing offence, it's a real slippery slope from here. I'm sure dozens said something like that and there'll have been plenty of jokes sent via text message about it - you can't lock everyone up for stuff like that.
To put it another way, if I said "I wish this disgusting individual was stoned to death" should I go to prison? Because what I've said there is worse, if anything, than what he's said.
It's a disgusting thing to say, People should think he's absolute scum for saying it, if I were his friend, I'd no longer be but that should be where the line is drawn. You can't lock people up for causing offence, it's a real slippery slope from here. I'm sure dozens said something like that and there'll have been plenty of jokes sent via text message about it - you can't lock everyone up for stuff like that.
To put it another way, if I said "I wish this disgusting individual was stoned to death" should I go to prison? Because what I've said there is worse, if anything, than what he's said.
I only read the BBC article.
What wasn't clear was where it was posted on Facebook.
Facebook is a mix of private and public areas.
There are areas where this sort if comment should result in a jail sentence and areas where it should not.
If it was posted on his personal secured page or a closed friends group it's a sentencing mistake.
If he posted on a memorial page or a school discussion group or on someone else's wall then it's justified punishment.
What wasn't clear was where it was posted on Facebook.
Facebook is a mix of private and public areas.
There are areas where this sort if comment should result in a jail sentence and areas where it should not.
If it was posted on his personal secured page or a closed friends group it's a sentencing mistake.
If he posted on a memorial page or a school discussion group or on someone else's wall then it's justified punishment.
BJG1 said:
It should never have led to a case being brought to court, or indeed an arrest. He said: "Personally, I'm glad that teacher got stabbed up. Feel sorry for the kid. He should have pissed on her too."
It's a disgusting thing to say, People should think he's absolute scum for saying it, if I were his friend, I'd no longer be but that should be where the line is drawn. You can't lock people up for causing offence, it's a real slippery slope from here. I'm sure dozens said something like that and there'll have been plenty of jokes sent via text message about it - you can't lock everyone up for stuff like that.
To put it another way, if I said "I wish this disgusting individual was stoned to death" should I go to prison? Because what I've said there is worse, if anything, than what he's said.
Spot on. This is what gets me really annoyed. The police have the time to go about arresting and charging people for issues like this and even when a poor hungry and unemployed chap killed one of the Queen's swan and had it for dinner but then claim they do not have resources to deal with real crime.It's a disgusting thing to say, People should think he's absolute scum for saying it, if I were his friend, I'd no longer be but that should be where the line is drawn. You can't lock people up for causing offence, it's a real slippery slope from here. I'm sure dozens said something like that and there'll have been plenty of jokes sent via text message about it - you can't lock everyone up for stuff like that.
To put it another way, if I said "I wish this disgusting individual was stoned to death" should I go to prison? Because what I've said there is worse, if anything, than what he's said.
Why wasnt Clarkson arrested, charged and convicted when he said Tube strikers should be taken outside and shot or why are all the islamic fanatics with not very nice messages on placards not arrsted, charged and convicted?
It was the same when that chap in Manchester wore a ''one less p
g'' t shirt after the one eyed criminal murdered those 2 female officers. Snowboy said:
If it was posted on his personal secured page or a closed friends group it's a sentencing mistake.
If he posted on a memorial page or a school discussion group or on someone else's wall then it's justified punishment.
I agree with the sentiment, but would prefer a community service sentence. 6 weeks scraping chewing gum off the pavements and picking up litter would be a lot more use than being locked up in a cell.If he posted on a memorial page or a school discussion group or on someone else's wall then it's justified punishment.
Rovinghawk said:
He's a vile piece of scum but putting him in prison helps nobody, except to satisfy an urge for revenge.
Community service would be better.
Agreed. It was a horrific thing to say, but what's the point in wasting money on him? It hardly constitutes a realistic threat to the public. Make him do some constructive good instead.Community service would be better.
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