"mobile" safety camera cars ??!?? - seen in so'ton
"mobile" safety camera cars ??!?? - seen in so'ton
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ayjay

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3,225 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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VW passat estate marked up (very very subtly though) as a mobile safety camera car driving very slowly through the temporary 30mph limit on the Millbrook Road... lady at the helm with some form of headset.

Can moving vehicles such as this legally catch speeding motorists?

Seems a teeny bit cheeky to me.

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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IIRC, all automatic speed detection devices are not type-approved for use in a moving vehicle. However, I believe that Brunstrom was granted exemption for a trial run.
Thinking about it, I don't see how they can possibly work. No matter how clever the electronics, logic suggests that without a known stationary point for the measurement, it simply can't be done.

Piccy mate

541 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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LOL - van driving slowly in a 30mph zone - obviously it's a safety van - it's stopped all those other speeding motorists who want to do up to 30mph. No need to take pictures or do anything else - they've stopped you speeding and they've stopped you getting a fine or whatever - be grateful.
Piccy

ayjay

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3,225 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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it wasn't a van,,, it was a prettu much inmarked silver estate car which if you looked very closely through the back window had the correct markings... by the time you get close enough to see,,, you are nicked!

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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lunarscope said:
Thinking about it, I don't see how they can possibly work. No matter how clever the electronics, logic suggests that without a known stationary point for the measurement, it simply can't be done.



military ships and planes manage to get good readings of other objects speeds whilst moving tres fast.!

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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esselte said:

lunarscope said:
Thinking about it, I don't see how they can possibly work. No matter how clever the electronics, logic suggests that without a known stationary point for the measurement, it simply can't be done.




military ships and planes manage to get good readings of other objects speeds whilst moving tres fast.!

[NativeAmericanMode]How ?[/NativeAmericanMode]

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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lunarscope said:

esselte said:


lunarscope said:
Thinking about it, I don't see how they can possibly work. No matter how clever the electronics, logic suggests that without a known stationary point for the measurement, it simply can't be done.





military ships and planes manage to get good readings of other objects speeds whilst moving tres fast.!


[NativeAmericanMode]How ?[/NativeAmericanMode]

By removing thier own speed induced doppler and hence speed .

harry

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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How do they know the amount of doppler shift to remove from the returning signal ?
Surely there is shift from both the outgoing and returning signal.
Does the equipment need to know the exact speed of the vehicle from which the measurement is being made.
Obviously I still don't get it.

Robbo SPS

195 posts

263 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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Sounds strange.

I shall ask a mate and let you know its purpose. Maybe its a loaner.

We dont use VW's in Hampshire

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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Robbo SPS said:
Sounds strange.

I shall ask a mate and let you know its purpose. Maybe its a loaner.

We dont use VW's in Hampshire


Got to say the last VW I saw in Hants Traff Pol used to be an old blue VR6 Vento a couple of years ago .

Robbo tell me you don't drive the burgundy or white pan european 'plain' bikes for a living up and down the 32 and across the 272 .

Harry

g_attrill

9,036 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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It was probably a fleet car owned by the scameraship - gotta spend all those fines some way!

Gareth

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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I have seen a silver passat marked up as a mobile unit travelling through sussex. Anyone have info on what kind of technology they use?

ledfoot

777 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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sadako said:
I have seen a silver passat marked up as a mobile unit travelling through sussex. Anyone have info on what kind of technology they use?


I think it's a 1.9 130BHP PDI diesel engine

Robbo SPS

195 posts

263 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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HarryW said:

Robbo SPS said:
Sounds strange.

I shall ask a mate and let you know its purpose. Maybe its a loaner.

We dont use VW's in Hampshire



Got to say the last VW I saw in Hants Traff Pol used to be an old blue VR6 Vento a couple of years ago .

Robbo tell me you don't drive the burgundy or white pan european 'plain' bikes for a living up and down the 32 and across the 272 .

Harry


No i drive a Mountain bike at the moment. Will be returning to a BMW in April once my attachment has ended.

I am desperate to get on the motorbike section. If i do. You will see a differnet face to Police officers.

xxplod

2,269 posts

273 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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I remember our old Vento VR6. Good car, always remember the VRM: P546 YRU I think. YRU - Why are you....speeding?

No this Passat doesn't ring true at all. I honestly don't think it was a revenue van. Conceivably slightly more likely to be an ANPR vehicle but AFAIK these are always static as well.

Probably some sort of survey or something.

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Sunday 12th December 2004
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ledfoot said:

sadako said:
I have seen a silver passat marked up as a mobile unit travelling through sussex. Anyone have info on what kind of technology they use?



I think it's a 1.9 130BHP PDI diesel engine


LOL