Parking Ticket Question
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dcw@pr

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3,516 posts

272 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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Here's a quickish one for you,

A few weeks ago I received a parking ticket, for allegedly parking in a residents bay that had been suspended. I live in No. 11, the bay had been suspended from 8-11. I know that I was parked on the ther side of my house, ie. on the 12 side of it. So I sent a letter to the council pointing this out, and they have replied saying that "according to the parking attendants notes, you were parked 5 yards from a time plate that stated the permit holder's only spaces had been suspended"

1) There are two timeplates on this bit of the street, one is up at about No.16, and if I was 5 Yards away from this one, I would have not been in the suspended area. The other is down at about No.8, but there are double Yellow lines for 5 yards on either side, so I couldn't have been parked there in any case

2) I know that i was parked about 30 yards from this post, on the other side of my house

The problem is that I cannot prove this. they have told me that if I do not pay withing 14 days then a Notice to Owner will be sent out, and I can make a formal representation.

My question is really, is it worth me doing this for the sake of £50? Is it likely that I will be able to convince them? I suppose it will come down to my word against the parking attendants, which makes it useful that I couldn;t have been parked where he/she said anyway.

What do you think?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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They rely on people not being bothered to contest when they ticket you illegally.

Not sure how to proceed on a legal standpoint, but www.parkingticket.co.uk may be able to help.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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I once parked across a friend's driveway in Cambridge (no lines of any description - parking allowed). Clearly Mrs Curtainpeeking-Busybody next door decided to call a traffic warden, as I returned to my car to see a ticket on it for "unnecessary obstruction", demanding 40 of my after-tax pounds. I wrote a letter to the parking office stating that it was my friend's driveway and he asked me to park there, so there was no obstruction. I even sent them a diagram - and kept a copy for my own records.

I got no response, so I waited until the court date.

The council didn't even bother sending a representative. It was thrown out and I got my costs for the day. But it all comes from the taxpayer in the end, so they're not fussed.

It's just one of thos nasty things in life that don't need to exist. A bit like wasps.

busa_rush

6,930 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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jacobyte said:
It's just one of thos nasty things in life that don't need to exist. A bit like wasps.


What do wasps do then ? My gf asked me this once and I couldn't think of anything a wasp did that was useful.

Themoss

256 posts

267 months

Tuesday 7th December 2004
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jacobyte said:
I once parked across a friend's driveway in Cambridge (no lines of any description - parking allowed). Clearly Mrs Curtainpeeking-Busybody next door decided to call a traffic warden, as I returned to my car to see a ticket on it for "unnecessary obstruction", demanding 40 of my after-tax pounds. I wrote a letter to the parking office stating that it was my friend's driveway and he asked me to park there, so there was no obstruction. I even sent them a diagram - and kept a copy for my own records.

I got no response, so I waited until the court date.

The council didn't even bother sending a representative. It was thrown out and I got my costs for the day. But it all comes from the taxpayer in the end, so they're not fussed.



Heard similar stories. The Councils earn so much money from people who just pay up that they don't even bother sending someone to the Court. Good luck with it........

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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busa_rush said:

jacobyte said:
It's just one of thos nasty things in life that don't need to exist. A bit like wasps.



What do wasps do then ? My gf asked me this once and I couldn't think of anything a wasp did that was useful.


They pollinate flowers.

harrow_chim

514 posts

312 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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parrot of doom said:

busa_rush said:


jacobyte said:
It's just one of thos nasty things in life that don't need to exist. A bit like wasps.




What do wasps do then ? My gf asked me this once and I couldn't think of anything a wasp did that was useful.


I've never seen a wasp near a flower - they might cross pollenate rubbish bins though!
They pollinate flowers.

einion yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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harrow_chim said:

parrot of doom said:


busa_rush said:



jacobyte said:
It's just one of thos nasty things in life that don't need to exist. A bit like wasps.





What do wasps do then ? My gf asked me this once and I couldn't think of anything a wasp did that was useful.



I've never seen a wasp near a flower - they might cross pollenate rubbish bins though!
They pollinate flowers.


At the start of the year they're carnivorous and keep down pest insect numbers. It's only at the end of the summer that they become the pain in the ar5e, sugar seeking, missiles we all love. Or so I believe.

SM125

2 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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You could also read www.bwmaonline.com/Legal%20-%20New%20doubts%20-%20Thoburn%20conviction.htm for a new slant on parking tickets. It's about half way down the page.

Cheers, SM

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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SM125 said:
You could also read www.bwmaonline.com/Legal%20-%20New%20doubts%20-%20Thoburn%20conviction.htm for a new slant on parking tickets. It's about half way down the page.

Cheers, SM

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dcw@pr

Original Poster:

3,516 posts

272 months

Friday 17th December 2004
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I've just seen something else in the letter they sent me

"As the suspension of these bays are paid for by the party involved in the work being carried out, it is the Council's obligation to issue Penalty Charge Notices for such a contravention"

I take this to mean that the money from my fine will go to the person who paid for the bay suspension?

Yeah Right!

Anyone know if this does happen?

mouseymousey

2,642 posts

266 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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The traffic wardens where I live take a picture of the car to show where it was at the time of the alleged offence.

Maybe they have photographic evidence that you could request a copy of to prove that you were more than 5m away from the time plate?