MOT Viewing Areas
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creampuff

Original Poster:

6,511 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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MOT viewing areas are a statutory requirement of MOT test stations are they not?

I'm at a BMW dealer where apparently they "don't have one"

ikarl

4,048 posts

228 months

Divvyboy

450 posts

147 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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The one I use let's you go up to the car when it's being tested.so you can see what there doing

creampuff

Original Poster:

6,511 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Yes I already Googled that but as I'm not a lawyer, work for VOSA or design MOT testing areas, I thought I would clarify my interpretation that they are required. My reading is they are.

I'm undecided if I should bh to VOSA. On the one hand they have not provided a viewing area. OTOH they have provided a capuccino and a biscuit.

ikarl

4,048 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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creampuff said:
they have provided a capuccino and a biscuit.
If they gave me a cappucino and my car came back fine, I'd be ok without the viewing area

Jobbo

13,812 posts

293 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Joy wants you to have a viewing area with your cappuccino and biscuit.


4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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creampuff said:
Yes I already Googled that but as I'm not a lawyer, work for VOSA or design MOT testing areas, I thought I would clarify my interpretation that they are required. My reading is they are.

I'm undecided if I should bh to VOSA. On the one hand they have not provided a viewing area. OTOH they have provided a capuccino and a biscuit.
You should get the Dealerships MOT testing status removed immediately!

There's no way that they can be testing cars correctly without a viewing room!

As everybody knows, the most vital part of the MOT is members of the general public being able to see it happening! - How else are we to have safe cars on our roads?

I bet they're not even looking at the cars and are just issuing MOT's to any old heap!

Find yourself a decent backstreet garage that does MOT's instead! - The last thing you want is a company like BMW's name appearing on your MOT! Future buyers will run a mile as soon as they see a BMW MOT!

beko1987

1,720 posts

163 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I'm getting my car MOT'd on thursday and the viewing area is wherever I like! Backstreet garage, run by relaxed people (a friend of mine being one of them) means I can have a good look around whilst its up on the ramps, asking them questions, or them telling me things.


Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Bearing in mind lots of garages have to jump through hoops to get MOT status theres no reason a BMW dealership should be flouting the rules.

Aretnap

1,969 posts

180 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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At my local backstreet garage the viewing area tends to be inside the car, with the tester shouting "brake! Steering wheel hard left!" at me from time to time.

Humper

946 posts

191 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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4rephill said:
There's no way that they can be testing cars correctly without a viewing room!
I know you were being snide, but as it's a legal requirement you're correct.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Aretnap said:
At my local backstreet garage the viewing area tends to be inside the car, with the tester shouting "brake! Steering wheel hard left!" at me from time to time.
Being a bit old fashioned I prefer these ,as when anything iff is found, the tester is there to point out exactly what is wrong. I suspect that "viewing areas " came about as the garages found that due to elf & safety regs, their insurance didn't cover customers under ramps ( without, steel boots/hard hats/ safety glasses and a High Viz vest,and thick gloves), and only then after a hefty premium. I now use a little back street place where my viewing area is my front room . I take car to garage, leave it outside ,and ( as I arrange my MOT for a day when my daughter is with her mate in mate's car ) find daughter has left her car outside garage for my use . It works both ways as often I am called on to be taxi driver.

V8forweekends

2,501 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Aretnap said:
At my local backstreet garage the viewing area tends to be inside the car, with the tester shouting "brake! Steering wheel hard left!" at me from time to time.
And mine - and it helps with the V8 because I save them time looking for all the stuff like hazard flashers and headlamp flashers that it doesn't have (and isn't required to) and they don't waste ages looking for the bonnet release that's in the front grille etc.

V8forweekends

2,501 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Jobbo said:
Joy wants you to have a viewing area with your cappuccino and biscuit.
Ah yes, strength through joy...that rings a bell somewhere....

JimmyConwayNW

3,632 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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It probably does, they just wanted you to wait and browse brochures and sell you a new car rather than have you getting in the way of the tech bods

ging84

9,548 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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they don't need to have a permanent designated mot viewing area, and certainly not one where you can sit in a reclining leather chair watching through a sound proof window sipping your double macchiato. They just need somewhere safe to stand or sit that can be made available when needed to the occasional nut job comes in and says i refuse to give your government pawns unsupervised access to my vehicle for fear of them adding mind control additives to the fuel and uploading spyware into the satnav.


Red Devil

13,510 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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ging84 said:
they don't need to have a permanent designated mot viewing area, and certainly not one where you can sit in a reclining leather chair watching through a sound proof window sipping your double macchiato. They just need somewhere safe to stand or sit that can be made available when needed to the occasional nut job comes in and says i refuse to give your government pawns unsupervised access to my vehicle for fear of them adding mind control additives to the fuel and uploading spyware into the satnav.
VOSA decides what should be provided. (my bold)

4. Requirements for premises.

For a site to be considered for approval it must provide the following:
4.1 Premises with:

e)a clearly identified weatherproof public waiting room or area from which the whole test can be directly observed without interruption, except for road testing (room for 2 seated people is considered sufficient).

  • the observation room or area should be identified by a notice and floor markings if applicable. There should also be a notice in reception indicating the presence of a viewing area.
The BMW dealer mentioned by the OP is in clear breach. How they got approval is another question. It begs the question of whether they have something to hide which might be exposed if the OP could see what they were doing - or not doing.

ging84

9,548 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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to meet those requirement you need a sign in reception and a sign on the wall near the mot bay optionally a line drawn on the floor if you don't want the dribbling freaks wandering out of where they've been put and licking brake fluid off of the floor.
Maybe the bmw dealer didn't have a sign i'm sure they can have one made

over_the_hill

3,330 posts

275 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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creampuff said:
OTOH they have provided a capuccino and a biscuit.
But the main point is what type of biscuit ?

(coincidentally a very apt user name )

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Aretnap said:
At my local backstreet garage the viewing area tends to be inside the car, with the tester shouting "brake! Steering wheel hard left!" at me from time to time.
Same here, none of the controls are marked on the TVR and they can't get out once they shut the door hehe

I like it, lets me have a good look under the car so I can see any problems for myself and fix them when I get home.