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sykes111s

Original Poster:

107 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Can the police remove a vehicle that is parked on Parish council land or is it a civil matter.

TooLateForAName

4,935 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Maybe....

How about some context?


sykes111s

Original Poster:

107 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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sorry it was a bit vague

I have parked my motorhome in a gravel layby that belongs to the local parish council.

It is on the route of the Tour de France.

I suspect they are going to ask me to move it, if it was causing an obstruction then fair enough.

I want to know can the police remove it if I dig my heals in.
This sort of thing really annoys me as I am sure they will make some rubbish up about it being health and safety.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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If it is N Yorks then be careful as there may be a ByLaw which prohibits parking overnight.

Check with the LA.

Problem is, as I see it, your taking the whole lay by up and thus preventing use by anyone in an emrgency. IF that happens then obstruction and could have collar felt?.

dvd

Mr.Chips

1,267 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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All the roads on the TdF route are expected to be clear. That includes property owners who live on the route and normally park on the road. Even some of the roads leading to the route have no parking allowed both leading up to the race and for a few hours afterwards. The council have been planning this for a long time, applying for all of the necessary permissions to allow this to go ahead. I suspect that you will have to move? HTH

guru_1071

2,768 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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its chaos in Harrogate, any cars parked on the route will be towed, any cars parked on the grass areas will be towed, a thousand signs warning of this, no camping, roads shut from 4am - 9pm for the next three days, so utter chaos getting to work.


then the following week its the great Yorkshire show, so repeat...............

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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guru_1071 said:
its chaos in Harrogate, any cars parked on the route will be towed, any cars parked on the grass areas will be towed, a thousand signs warning of this, no camping, roads shut from 4am - 9pm for the next three days, so utter chaos getting to work.


then the following week its the great Yorkshire show, so repeat...............
My Grandma lives just outside the centre and has no cars in the driveway. Slip me a £100 and you can park a couple of cars there for the weekend! driving

guru_1071

2,768 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
My Grandma lives just outside the centre and has no cars in the driveway. Slip me a £100 and you can park a couple of cars there for the weekend! driving
she hasn't got a garage she wants to rent out has she by any chance???


tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Sadly no. She's 91 and losing her marbles a little bit. Seeing random people coming down the drive everyday would be like some kind of groundhog experience.

TooLateForAName

4,935 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Given the TdF stuff then I think you would be best to move on if asked.

In my experience the police are generally not interested in taking action over vehicles on parish council land (and I have a fair bit of experience from the PC side) I think that this week you'll find them rather keener on taking action.

I don't know if there are traffic orders or whatever, but there are plenty of posters around with dire warnings.

The worst case would be that you get moved on in the early hours of Friday morning and then cant find another spot.

All the farmers around us seem to be offering parking (presumably at extortionate cost) as are pubs, garden centres etc.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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A major sporting event that will bring income to the area is coming through and you want to be an arse and leave your van right on the route? Top community spirit!

Vaud

59,957 posts

186 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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sykes111s said:
I have parked my motorhome in a gravel layby that belongs to the local parish council.

It is on the route of the Tour de France.
A-ha it was you!!!!

I drove the TdF loop earlier today and saw several campervans.

I saw one that was fully levelled with levelling blocks precisely set under each wheel. That is on the road above Bucken / Cray.

The area where every village has offers for motorhomes to park in their fields, for reasonable rates, with nice pubs nearby serving fine Yorkshire beer.

Given the massive number of signs saying the route will be cleared, if I were you, I would move it, regardless of who owns it on paper. Those lay-bys are for people to stop for a a picnic, walk, etc, not stay for a week!

I wanted to stop and do a quick 5 mins of photos by the waterfall walk above Cray but every gravel lay-by had a motorhome in...

Stop being miserly, park up in somewhere like Kettlewell (some nice pubs) or Bucken for £5 a night and walk up on the morning of the tour, the roads will be closed...

Edit: I was driving past 40 mins before you posted this...

Edited by Vaud on Wednesday 2nd July 22:13

CAPP0

20,881 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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On the flip side, we have had a family of DAYLs on our village green for a fortnight. They are illegally camped, they are driving vehicles along a footpath to reach the site, and the parish, borough and county council claim to have banged their heads against various walls unsuccessfully for 2 weeks trying to get them moved, despite reports of local residents being harassed, human excrement under the trees on the green, actual damage being witnessed, etc. BiB seem to have forgotten what an S.59 is for. Apparently they may be moved by the weekend although I suspect they will be consulting the Little DAYL Book of Stay-Put Excuses between now and then.

So, get yerself a dag, a brassy missus and a litter of uneducated runts, and practice Brad's dodgy accent and you'll be good until well after the tour passes.

Roo

11,504 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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In fairness, that's no different to what you see on the rest of the route.

Maybe the other countries through which it passes are more relaxed than here.

Or, maybe they want to make sure you're not setting yourself up with a changing room en route for devil, mankini or all in one lucrative suits.

Red Devil

13,530 posts

239 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Vaud said:
A-ha it was you!!!!

I drove the TdF loop earlier today and saw several campervans.

I saw one that was fully levelled with levelling blocks precisely set under each wheel. That is on the road above BuckenBuckden / Cray.
yes Exhibit 1 for the prosecution. The OP's pic! lick

Vaud

59,957 posts

186 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Red Devil said:
yes Exhibit 1 for the prosecution. The OP's pic! lick
I have no idea how I made the spelling error. The lower village of Starbotton is a better candidate for spelling errors.

sykes111s

Original Poster:

107 posts

285 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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I think the whole spirit of the tour has been sucked out of it.

In this country when we get a big event all people think about is how to extract the max amount of money out of the general public.

In France the farmers open there fields up and let people park for free, for the benefit of the race and charge a few euro for camping.

There is a farmer offering motorhome camping at £30 a night but for that you get nothing. No water, waste , bins or toilets just a space in a field.

Where I am parked is causing no obstruction to anyone, in fact there is no one up there apart from a few motorhomes.

I live at Starbotton(few miles down the road) so pass this place often, and have never seen anyone park in this particular layby.
I have resigned myself to the fact that I will get moved on Sat morning.

W124Bob

1,863 posts

206 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Quite clearly the UK organizers have failed to grasp the essence of the Tour, in France a road like that would probably be lined by campers and vans 24 hours before all parting and having fun, but the killjoy attitude and ripoff Britain mentality has kicked in. £98 to see the team roll out today, it's always been free and next year the TV rights are up for grabs, can guess where they will go! Just hope the Devil isn't in the UK he'll probably be arrested.


sykes111s

Original Poster:

107 posts

285 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Looking at those pictures makes me shake in my health and safety boots.
it looks like the start of an episode of Casualty rolleyes

Will someone think of the children!!!!!!!!!!!

BigBob

1,471 posts

256 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Saying that, the wife and I went to the National Champs in Abergavenny last Sunday. Free parking and buses were provided.

The teams even turned out with Chicken pieces/Pork pies/little flags/key rings etc to hand out to the crowd - not everywhere is 'Rip-off' Britain.


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