Why didn't my snooper detect a following cop car?
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Hi there,
I recently got pulled for 86 in a 70 (on an empty dual carriage way - so shoot me, I know...).
My snooper was on, and didn't detect a thing. I was followed by an un-marked police car who were "monitoring my speed on their computer, showing that I was doing 86 mph for 16 seconds".
Are there any devices that offer complete protection?
What was the device that they might have used on me?
Any educated guesses appreciated.
Thanks, Joel.
PS - It was on a road trip across Northen Ireland, so the points don't carry across... Result !
I recently got pulled for 86 in a 70 (on an empty dual carriage way - so shoot me, I know...).
My snooper was on, and didn't detect a thing. I was followed by an un-marked police car who were "monitoring my speed on their computer, showing that I was doing 86 mph for 16 seconds".
Are there any devices that offer complete protection?
What was the device that they might have used on me?
Any educated guesses appreciated.
Thanks, Joel.
PS - It was on a road trip across Northen Ireland, so the points don't carry across... Result !
Your snoper works on radar or similar waves 
Your snooper will not detect te fact a Police car is following you and they are watching the speedo in front of the Police driver which is calibrated or the VASCAR or Police Pilot system in the car.
These devices which you attach to your dashboard to warn you of impending NIP's only work if a lazer or radar beam is sent in your direction.
As far as I am aware, snoopers cannot detect eyes watching you
, yet! 
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Your snooper will not detect te fact a Police car is following you and they are watching the speedo in front of the Police driver which is calibrated or the VASCAR or Police Pilot system in the car.
These devices which you attach to your dashboard to warn you of impending NIP's only work if a lazer or radar beam is sent in your direction.
As far as I am aware, snoopers cannot detect eyes watching you
, yet! . 
joelk said:
Hi there,
I recently got pulled for 86 in a 70 (on an empty dual carriage way - so shoot me, I know...).
My snooper was on, and didn't detect a thing. I was followed by an un-marked police car who were "monitoring my speed on their computer, showing that I was doing 86 mph for 16 seconds".
Are there any devices that offer complete protection?
What was the device that they might have used on me?
Any educated guesses appreciated.
Thanks, Joel.
PS - It was on a road trip across Northen Ireland, so the points don't carry across... Result !
Mk1 eyeball. Don't forget to switch it on.
Some boffin bloke said said:
The policeman following you will use a system of light refraction from the car being followed, the retinal receivers of a trained officer then computate the data through the data recognition system. A complicated process then ensues which decides if the velocity of said vehicle is beyond that required. The retinal receivers are then directed to the onboard velocity determination device in said follwoing vehicle & this data is referred back to the computational device, if the data exceeds the quoted velicity numeric of the road your on, another computational process is made within the police device to make a motor nuerological movement to intercept an electronic button that acuates the blue optical sensory overload devices attatched to said police vehicle. At this point it is normally expected that the sensory overload of the pursued vehicle occupant causes an ass clenching sensation in the buttocks region & a rapid decline in vehicle velocity to a place of sanctuary. Followed by grovelling to the operator of the sensory overload vehicle that the detected velocity was not what the computational device calculated
Serious question, because I didn't know this before you lot take the piss.
If the plod is following you do they not have any other system of veryfying their speed compared to yours. I admit their speedo has a calibration certificate but their eyeball certainly doesn't.
If not I would be will to challenge the assertion that an eyeball could be precise enough to gauge 1mph closing speed over 16 seconds.
If the plod is following you do they not have any other system of veryfying their speed compared to yours. I admit their speedo has a calibration certificate but their eyeball certainly doesn't.
If not I would be will to challenge the assertion that an eyeball could be precise enough to gauge 1mph closing speed over 16 seconds.
Julian64 said:
Serious question, because I didn't know this before you lot take the piss.
If the plod is following you do they not have any other system of veryfying their speed compared to yours. I admit their speedo has a calibration certificate but their eyeball certainly doesn't.
If not I would be will to challenge the assertion that an eyeball could be precise enough to gauge 1mph closing speed over 16 seconds.
VASCAR. Times you over the marks on the road that are placed there precisely for that very purpose.
pdV6 said:
Serious question, because I didn't know this before you lot take the piss.
If the plod is following you do they not have any other system of veryfying their speed compared to yours. I admit their speedo has a calibration certificate but their eyeball certainly doesn't.
If not I would be will to challenge the assertion that an eyeball could be precise enough to gauge 1mph closing speed over 16 seconds.
VASCAR. Times you over the marks on the road that are placed there precisely for that very purpose.
Ooopps, thanks, obviously didn't know what vascar was. I thought it was their speedo connected to a forward facing distance detection device.
MY FELLOW PISTON-HEADERS...
1. The cop car & police were both UNMARKED. No amount of Mk1 eyeball (which was already well used) would have been effective.
2. There was an onboard computer fitted in the cop car (where the stereo would normally go) which was seperate to the normal speedo. Presumably, this is connected to a device which was tracking / aimed at my car?
If so, what is this device and how can it be combatted?
As previously stated, EDUCATED opinons appreciated please!
1. The cop car & police were both UNMARKED. No amount of Mk1 eyeball (which was already well used) would have been effective.
2. There was an onboard computer fitted in the cop car (where the stereo would normally go) which was seperate to the normal speedo. Presumably, this is connected to a device which was tracking / aimed at my car?
If so, what is this device and how can it be combatted?
As previously stated, EDUCATED opinons appreciated please!
but the mile markers at the side of the road and a watch!FYI...
Just read this on the VASCAR website !
Buggers eh?
Come on fellas... someone out there should detect a new jammer for this !
Theory of operation - VASCAR-plus® is a programmed computer that measures speed, by dividing distance traveled by the time it took to travel the distance.
The device, which is the size of a small radio, may be mounted in the police car, motorcycle or airplane. When the suspected speeder's car passes a point determined by the officer he flips a switch.
When the suspect's car passes another point, the officer turns the switch off. Elapsed time is automatically recorded by the computer. The officer measures the distance by throwing a switch when his car passes the first point and turning it off when his car passes the second point. The police car is used only to measure distance and its speed is not a factor in determining whether or not the suspect is speeding.
Because VASCAR-plus® computes speed simply by dividing the distance traveled by the elapsed time, it can be used in a wide variety of situations. And because it measures average speed and requires no depth perception judgments, it is fairer to the driver than other forms of speed measurement.
Today's speeders are even better equipped to avoid detection than law enforcement officers are to catch them. Undetectable RADAR detectors, RADAR jammers and cloaking devices have made the job much harder. The advanced micro processor technology of VASCAR-plus® cannot be located by radar detectors nor can it be jammed.
Just read this on the VASCAR website !
Buggers eh?
Come on fellas... someone out there should detect a new jammer for this !
Theory of operation - VASCAR-plus® is a programmed computer that measures speed, by dividing distance traveled by the time it took to travel the distance.
The device, which is the size of a small radio, may be mounted in the police car, motorcycle or airplane. When the suspected speeder's car passes a point determined by the officer he flips a switch.
When the suspect's car passes another point, the officer turns the switch off. Elapsed time is automatically recorded by the computer. The officer measures the distance by throwing a switch when his car passes the first point and turning it off when his car passes the second point. The police car is used only to measure distance and its speed is not a factor in determining whether or not the suspect is speeding.
Because VASCAR-plus® computes speed simply by dividing the distance traveled by the elapsed time, it can be used in a wide variety of situations. And because it measures average speed and requires no depth perception judgments, it is fairer to the driver than other forms of speed measurement.
Today's speeders are even better equipped to avoid detection than law enforcement officers are to catch them. Undetectable RADAR detectors, RADAR jammers and cloaking devices have made the job much harder. The advanced micro processor technology of VASCAR-plus® cannot be located by radar detectors nor can it be jammed.
. Wonder how much the police got charged for that state of the art computer system.ca092003 said:
I think it is a total myth to suggest that you can't spot unmarked cars, even at night, IF you know what you are looking for.
Sir,
Many of the vehicles in our fleet don't have the usual aerial farm on the roof. The new Tetra radio has meant only 1 or 2 aerials are required and these are quite small.
Only vehicles with 'Tracker' detecting equipment will have the four aerials in a square formation.
Apart from S60,V70s, our fleet also contains unmarked Honda Accord, BMW 3 Series and Skoda Octavia.
The 'new' uniform of black fleeces with the epaulette on the chest, also means identification of the occupants is fairly difficult too; especially if one is exceeding the speed limit.
No Discretion said:
The 'new' uniform of black fleeces with the epaulette on the chest, also means identification of the occupants is fairly difficult too; especially if one is exceeding the speed limit.
Yes, because the speed one if travelling is directly proportional to the amount they can see...
Question that has probably already been answered in those previous posts : what if the police car travels a different amount of distance to the target?
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