Just noticed how I drive.....
Just noticed how I drive.....
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tiger6791

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769 posts

263 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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.... and I'm not a fast driver, I'm the one in the 4.0L V8 trundling along at 70 in the inside lane only moving out to overtake etc. I don't revel in going fast in built up areas and "tut tut" at the Chavs in the Saxo's giving it large in a 30 zone and I'm pretty aware of accidents having seen a few and what they can do. I'm not saying I never go quickly but I do tend to reserve it for more remote quieter roads where the locals believe sleeping with your cousin is the norm.

We have some 20 zones round us and I usually challenge myself to not set off the warning signs these seem far more effective at reducing speed and if I do set them off, which I have done, I reduce my speed and don't begrudge them at all no harm done problem corrected.

I've never had a speeding ticket or been camera'd but I hate the things and I'm sh1t scared one will catch me out one day not because I'm going mad but I might be driving down a nice wide quiet road at 40-50 mph quite safely and flash too late 3 or 4 mph over the limit.

I find myself constantly looking for the next camera and the odd thing is not because I'm speeding!! Is this just me or do most people think like this?



mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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You own a car, you're a criminal.

Get used to it.

The Government want you off the road, and they are making driving as unpleasant as they can.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Me too. I don't consider myself a fast driver, stay within speed limits in all restricted areas and stay within sight of the NSL outside them, even when it would be safe to go much faster. But I know that I exceed the speed limit often enough that I could in theory quite easily lose my license in a single day under the 'totting up' thing. It's only a matter of time before I'm done, and the more cameras we get the sooner it's going to happen.

tim.tonal

2,049 posts

262 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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It's a case of 'know the enemy', glasshopper!

sadako

7,080 posts

267 months

Sunday 12th December 2004
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I've had to go into some hostile territory in the company transit, good thing i brought el snooper with me. It spotted a really nasty truvelo at the bottom of a steep hill in chatham.

While I cannot rely on it completly it does help to have a blackspot detector. I would recommend others using them.

p.s. i inadvertantly discovered how to remove the laser sensor cover. I'll post full instructions on how to mod a snooper s4 to remove this is case detectors become illegal

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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It is true that it works better if the pro-laser the BiB use is aimed at the windscreen of the car....otherwise the snooper might not detect it?

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

280 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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When it's quiet I drive bloody fast. Deserted dual carriageway - 130 ticks

1200am A34 110 - 130 ticks.

But I slow down for traffic, drive courteously and give myself the appropriate stopping distances.

I have a fast car and I know how to use it.

Cheers,

Steve

P.S. Did 60mph all the way down the M4 this morning cause it was busy....

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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Fat Audi 80 said:
When it's quiet I drive bloody fast. Deserted dual carriageway - 130 ticks

1200am A34 110 - 130 ticks.

But I slow down for traffic, drive courteously and give myself the appropriate stopping distances.

I have a fast car and I know how to use it.

Cheers,

Steve

P.S. Did 60mph all the way down the M4 this morning cause it was busy....


Good man.

130 ticks eh Steve? CUBby won't go that fast dammit. Unlike your good self I don't have a fast car, but I make the best of what I do have.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

richardthestag

1,406 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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mondeoman said:
The Government want you off the road, and they are making driving as unpleasant as they can.


No no the government want you to pay them lots of money for using your car, if they get you off the road they will loose vital tax income, then they will have to tax children for learning or maybe introduce a toilet flush tax.

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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TripleS said:


Fat Audi 80 said:
When it's quiet I drive bloody fast. Deserted dual carriageway - 130 ticks

1200am A34 110 - 130 ticks.

But I slow down for traffic, drive courteously and give myself the appropriate stopping distances.

I have a fast car and I know how to use it.

Cheers,

Steve

P.S. Did 60mph all the way down the M4 this morning cause it was busy....




Good man.

130 ticks eh Steve? CUBby won't go that fast dammit. Unlike your good self I don't have a fast car, but I make the best of what I do have.

Best wishes all,
Dave.




Thanks Mate.

I like to think I have used the performance sensibly. I have seen close to 1.5 ticks before but I have to say that really is for special occasions only. I am planning so very early jaunts next summer around 4.00am when its just light



>> Edited by Fat Audi 80 on Tuesday 14th December 13:38

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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100mph+, deserted motorway at 3.00am....

About the time I'm just having my meal at the motorway station when the radio message comes in;

"Delta Tango Nine Two, can I turn you out please...one car RTC at Junction 9...believed to be on it's roof and in a live lane"...

Happens regularly.....

But hey, there's no other vehicles, you're not hurting anyone..


Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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No Discretion said:
100mph+, deserted motorway at 3.00am....

About the time I'm just having my meal at the motorway station when the radio message comes in;

"Delta Tango Nine Two, can I turn you out please...one car RTC at Junction 9...believed to be on it's roof and in a live lane"...

Happens regularly.....

But hey, there's no other vehicles, you're not hurting anyone..




Due to what?

I know that is a bit confrontational, and it is not meant to be.

Please can you explain the increased risk of dying on a deserted motorway at 3.00am driving 100+ to me?

Despite my tone, I am genuinely interested in your risk analysis.

Cheers, :thumbs:

Steve

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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Fat Audi 80 said:

No Discretion said:
100mph+, deserted motorway at 3.00am....

About the time I'm just having my meal at the motorway station when the radio message comes in;

"Delta Tango Nine Two, can I turn you out please...one car RTC at Junction 9...believed to be on it's roof and in a live lane"...

Happens regularly.....

But hey, there's no other vehicles, you're not hurting anyone..





Due to what?

I know that is a bit confrontational, and it is not meant to be.

Please can you explain the increased risk of dying on a deserted motorway at 3.00am driving 100+ to me?

Despite my tone, I am genuinely interested in your risk analysis.

Cheers, :thumbs:

Steve


Hiya Steve...

The increased speed meant that he hit the crash barrier with more velocity....this meant that the vehicle was lifted up and outwards and flipped the car onto the roof. In any collision where a car overturns, the likelyhood of serious injury is greater. At 70mph, the barrier would have kept the vehicle onthe carraigeway, absorbed the impact better and all four wheels would have remained on the floor....

mechsympathy

58,657 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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No Discretion said:

The increased speed meant that he hit the crash barrier with more velocity....this meant that the vehicle was lifted up and outwards and flipped the car onto the roof. In any collision where a car overturns, the likelyhood of serious injury is greater. At 70mph, the barrier would have kept the vehicle onthe carraigeway, absorbed the impact better and all four wheels would have remained on the floor....


Any idea why he hit the barrier?

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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mechsympathy said:

No Discretion said:

The increased speed meant that he hit the crash barrier with more velocity....this meant that the vehicle was lifted up and outwards and flipped the car onto the roof. In any collision where a car overturns, the likelyhood of serious injury is greater. At 70mph, the barrier would have kept the vehicle onthe carraigeway, absorbed the impact better and all four wheels would have remained on the floor....



Any idea why he hit the barrier?


I first suspected that he had fallen asleep, but the driver stated he had been travelling at 120+ (not the sharpest tool in the box) and had started to 'slide' from lane 3 into 2 then into 1 and onto the shoulder and barrier...

The road wasn't icy, but was damp...prior to the gently curve, there is a slightly sharper curve in that section of the motorway and I think he did a bit of 50pence piece steering, if you know what that is..

mechsympathy

58,657 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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No Discretion said:

I think he did a bit of 50pence piece steering, if you know what that is..




So it was driving like a knob per se, rather than the speed that was the initial problem?

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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mechsympathy said:

No Discretion said:

I think he did a bit of 50pence piece steering, if you know what that is..





So it was driving like a knob per se, rather than the speed that was the initial problem?


Excess speed definately....the car wouldn't have lost traction on that part of the motorway at perhaps 90-110 mph, but he was in excess of that....
Even the 90-110 might have been a bit foolish, but not as bad as 120+

Anyway..50 pence piece steering is where you approach a bend and instead of turning the wheel in time with the severity of the bend, you turn a little bit, realise it's getting tighter, turn a little bit more and so on...in the shape of a 50p piece....it makes the car unsteady and unbalances the natural forces in the cornering...

mechsympathy

58,657 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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No Discretion said:

Anyway..50 pence piece steering is where you approach a bend and instead of turning the wheel in time with the severity of the bend, you turn a little bit, realise it's getting tighter, turn a little bit more and so on...in the shape of a 50p piece....it makes the car unsteady and unbalances the natural forces in the cornering...


Aha, I thought that might be it

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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mechsympathy said:

No Discretion said:

Anyway..50 pence piece steering is where you approach a bend and instead of turning the wheel in time with the severity of the bend, you turn a little bit, realise it's getting tighter, turn a little bit more and so on...in the shape of a 50p piece....it makes the car unsteady and unbalances the natural forces in the cornering...



Aha, I thought that might be it


Thanks MechSympathy you saved me typing up my similar responses.

Driving round a greasy bend @ 100+ is STUPID!

Cheers,

Steve.

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th December 2004
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No Discretion said:

..50 pence piece steering is where you approach a bend and instead of turning the wheel in time with the severity of the bend, you turn a little bit, realise it's getting tighter, turn a little bit more and so on...in the shape of a 50p piece....it makes the car unsteady and unbalances the natural forces in the cornering...


It sounds as if the middle S was missing!

Best wishes all,
Dave.