Civillian camera operators.
Civillian camera operators.
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MilnerR

Original Poster:

8,273 posts

287 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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Just witnessed a civillian speed camera operator leap out of his van and stop a merc sprinter van to lecture the driver.
The scamera was parked in a layby opposite my drive way and while out collecting the sunday papers i stopped to watch the van at "work." The operator lept out and waved the sprinter van into the layby. The operators first words were "are you reading or driving?" closely followed by "you can't have your mobile like that"
Didn't think ciivy operators could stop vehicles? I'm pretty sure he was a civillian, he was wearing what looked like a police uniform without any marks or badges and a hi-vis trafpol style peaked cap (again with no markings).
Its interesting to note that this particular guy was on the look out for more than just speeding motorists.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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MilnerR said:
Just witnessed a civillian speed camera operator leap out of his van and stop a merc sprinter van to lecture the driver.
The scamera was parked in a layby opposite my drive way and while out collecting the sunday papers i stopped to watch the van at "work." The operator lept out and waved the sprinter van into the layby. The operators first words were "are you reading or driving?" closely followed by "you can't have your mobile like that"
Didn't think ciivy operators could stop vehicles? I'm pretty sure he was a civillian, he was wearing what looked like a police uniform without any marks or badges and a hi-vis trafpol style peaked cap (again with no markings).
Its interesting to note that this particular guy was on the look out for more than just speeding motorists.



I cant wait, the fcucker will just wake up in hospital

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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heh, I'd stop, listen to what he told me, turn the car around, head 200 yards up the road, turn around, and floor it. The expression on his face as I turned around, and asked him if 'he got that' would be worth it, along with telling him his evidence was worthless, and that there was nothing he could do to stop me from doing it again, and again, and again.

MilnerR

Original Poster:

8,273 posts

287 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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It was parked on the A53 (a 30mph zone BTW) heading out of Buxton just to let you know to keep an eye out if you ever pass through. Wished I'd taken a piccy now

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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If he's a simple civvy, he's in for a rough ride around here, there has been a problem, staffing the SPECS parking scheme with dysfuntional numpties, following abuse and attacks from memebers of public.
would'ent fancy his plastic policemans outfit as shield here.

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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it'll have been a copper....

though I can't imagine why he put himself to the trouble...on overtime at time and a half per hour..sat in a warm van with Radio 2 on....why bother your arse..?

MilnerR

Original Poster:

8,273 posts

287 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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Maybe he was a copper. Its just that he didn't appear to have any equipment and i couldn't see any badges or identifying marks. And the speed he moved at was astonishing

number 46

1,019 posts

277 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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Why is public money wasted paying a policemen overtime to run a scamera racket van ??

catso

16,430 posts

296 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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number 46 said:
Why is public money wasted paying a policemen overtime to run a scamera racket van ??


Because even after overtime/fancy HQ/hospitality/christmas party etc they still turn a profit. It is quite simply a Scam.

^Slider^

2,874 posts

278 months

Sunday 19th December 2004
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Only a constable in uniform can cause a vehicle to stop. So would have had to have been BiB otherwise the stop would have been unlawfull.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Not so Slider......

DVD

joospeed

4,473 posts

307 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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^Slider^ said:
Only a constable in uniform can cause a vehicle to stop. So would have had to have been BiB otherwise the stop would have been unlawfull.

i think anyone can stop anyone else .. what would be unlawful would be to stop someone in their car and then pretend to be a police officer .. a civilian can stop a car, just as long as they then don't say "I'm a policeman" or wear a uniform which looks identical to a policeman's etc ..

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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number 46 said:
Why is public money wasted paying a policemen overtime to run a scamera racket van ??


It's paid for by the Safety Camera Partnerships through fines from previous speeding drivers....

If they didn't catch anyone..there'd be no money to pay the operators and so the vans wouldn't go out....

maxrider

2,481 posts

265 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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If they didn't catch anyone..there'd be no money to pay the operators and so the vans wouldn't go out....


..... All about 'safety' then! They want people to 'slow down' do they? Do they ! If the vans didn't go out people would die wouldn't they??? Catch drivers to pay for scamera vans to catch more drivers to pay for scamera vans to....... what a pathetic waste of space the whole scheme is, but we all know that don't we, just when/if will anything be done to stop the whole charade????

No Discretion

655 posts

261 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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maxrider said:
If they didn't catch anyone..there'd be no money to pay the operators and so the vans wouldn't go out....


..... All about 'safety' then! They want people to 'slow down' do they? Do they ! If the vans didn't go out people would die wouldn't they??? Catch drivers to pay for scamera vans to catch more drivers to pay for scamera vans to....... what a pathetic waste of space the whole scheme is, but we all know that don't we, just when/if will anything be done to stop the whole charade????


It's just a fact that at present...nobody can claim it's taxpayer's money being wasted, as the reinvestment of speeding fines pays for police wages.

But...as we keep saying.....unless you vote for some other party than Labour next time....trafpol number WILL continue to be replaced by cameravans.

^Slider^

2,874 posts

278 months

Monday 20th December 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Not so Slider......

DVD


Except in the case of a RTC where it is assumed that the verhicles are stopped.

I was not aware of anything else except designated PCSO's which have powers of stop as the definition states that a person driving a MPV on a road must stop on being required to do so by a constable in uniform. S163 Road traffic Act.