caught speeding today on m6 toll
caught speeding today on m6 toll
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nightSpirit

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1,057 posts

199 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Oh dear, there I was happily cruising along at 95.2mph on a fairly deserted m6 toll when I spotted an unmarked a6 with one of those fancy cameras on the rear parcel shelf. As I passed him, I slowed down and waited for the inevitable pull over.

After a chat (all very friendly) I was issued with a ticket (with incorrect vehicle reg) and sent on my way. My question is (to those have been in a similar situation...not those just quoting 'the law') how have you faired in such circumstances if you HAVEN'T just rolled over and taken it like a good little motorist?

Durzel

13,007 posts

199 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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So you gave them attitude? What outcome would you expect to get if you wind them up?

Stoofa

959 posts

199 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Not quite sure what you're asking. When you're pulled more often then not you are getting a ticket.
Yes sir, no sir is always going to give you the greatest chance of getting a "speaking to" over a ticket - but still just slim chances.

No they haven't got anything better to do - they are traffic police after all.
Hands up, sorry sir, be cuteous and maybe you get the talk. Attitude will get you the ticket every time.

Durzel

13,007 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Stoofa said:
Hands up, sorry sir, be cuteous and maybe you get the talk. Attitude will get you the ticket every time.
This.

You'd have to be a pretty charming mofo to avoid a ticket for ~95mph, but giving them attitude or acting (or earnestly) like you're not going to take anything they say on board is a sure fire way to earn yourself a "by the letter of the law" response.

awg454

505 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Have I missed something here the OP said they had a friendly chat ?

Durzel

13,007 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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awg454 said:
Have I missed something here the OP said they had a friendly chat ?
I figured the comment about "friendly chat" was sarcasm to be honest, mainly because of the subsequent question about what others have experienced when they haven't "rolled over and taken it like a good little motorist".

To be brutally honest it's a bit of a stupid question (no offence). Being confrontational with them in situations where you're in the wrong and don't have any mitigation or defense has no positive outcome and serves only to preserve a misguided notion of pride. Same goes for court appearances too - there's a reason people are told to turn up suited and booted, etc. Even acting like you're contrite is usually enough.

Whether or not you think 95mph+ is acceptable or not is moot really, it IS illegal so if you get caught you best act like you at least give a crap about the Law, otherwise you'll get no favourable discretion at all.

Macadoodle

913 posts

164 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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The way I understood it, the OP did 'roll over and take it like a good little motorist' and was asking if anyone had had experience of when they didn't. I didnt dettect any sarcasm with the 'all very friendly' remark. I would imagine getting caught doing 95 and then giving the copper aggro would be a pretty daft thing to do.

sherbertdip

1,289 posts

150 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Macadoodle said:
The way I understood it, the OP did 'roll over and take it like a good little motorist' and was asking if anyone had had experience of when they didn't. I didnt dettect any sarcasm with the 'all very friendly' remark. I would imagine getting caught doing 95 and then giving the copper aggro would be a pretty daft thing to do.
I understood that he "rolled over like a good little motorist". However, by using those words the inference was that inwardly he was seething and actually wanted to shoot the little jobs worth with his spud gun at the petty act of being stopped and given a speeding ticket for ONLY doing 95.2mph on the M6 TOLL MOTORWAY, and there was hardly anybody else using it at the time! How dare they!

The fact that it was nearly deserted and he was tanking along at nearly a ton making him stick out like "spare prick at wedding" seems to have not occurred to him, rather than it making it ok to do so.


Edited by sherbertdip on Saturday 13th September 07:39

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

187 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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No, you're all incorrect. I read it as the OP has noted his reg is wrong on the ticket. He didn't give the officer any attitude but now he has the ticket, should he just pay it or contest it (as it has the wrong reg number on it)?

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

196 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Liquid Tuna said:
No, you're all incorrect. I read it as the OP has noted his reg is wrong on the ticket. He didn't give the officer any attitude but now he has the ticket, should he just pay it or contest it (as it has the wrong reg number on it)?
And how MANY times has that exact question been answered on here? It's the driver that's being penalised, not the car. Presumably they have his name and address?


CoolHands

23,672 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Another pointless pull for plod. M6 toll - no wonder no one goes on it.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Reading between the lines, does the OP really want to know if he can get off due to the error on the ticket?

CoolHands

23,672 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Yes, but he won't.

robinessex

12,041 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Are you sure you were doing 95.2 and not 95.3 mph. Makes a difference you know.

Durzel

13,007 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Were the officers wearing hivis and their hats? This is important.

To be honest I don't know who is trolling who at this point, or even who read the OP's intentions correctly. frown

nightSpirit

Original Poster:

1,057 posts

199 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Wow, didn't have 'email notify' on so hadn't seen the carnage.

I don't give the plod grief, I'm always polite and friendly with them...due to me not being 18 anymore (although I did give the plod grief at a young age and got off free...)

My question was simple. He wrote the reg down wrong, is there any chance I could get out of it due to this and has anyone SPEAKING FROM ACTUAL EXPERIENCE tried this and been successful?

The 'hit' rate for actually getting points/fine for me has been fairly even to date. I just want to know how others have faired by either not replying, going to court etc etc.

Meoricin

2,880 posts

200 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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nightSpirit said:
Wow, didn't have 'email notify' on so hadn't seen the carnage.

I don't give the plod grief, I'm always polite and friendly with them...due to me not being 18 anymore (although I did give the plod grief at a young age and got off free...)

My question was simple. He wrote the reg down wrong, is there any chance I could get out of it due to this and has anyone SPEAKING FROM ACTUAL EXPERIENCE tried this and been successful?

The 'hit' rate for actually getting points/fine for me has been fairly even to date. I just want to know how others have faired by either not replying, going to court etc etc.
Then maybe you should have read one of the hundreds of threads on that very topic. 'technicalities' don't save you from the law.

Trailhead

2,628 posts

178 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Meoricin said:
nightSpirit said:
Wow, didn't have 'email notify' on so hadn't seen the carnage.

I don't give the plod grief, I'm always polite and friendly with them...due to me not being 18 anymore (although I did give the plod grief at a young age and got off free...)

My question was simple. He wrote the reg down wrong, is there any chance I could get out of it due to this and has anyone SPEAKING FROM ACTUAL EXPERIENCE tried this and been successful?

The 'hit' rate for actually getting points/fine for me has been fairly even to date. I just want to know how others have faired by either not replying, going to court etc etc.
Then maybe you should have read one of the hundreds of threads on that very topic. 'technicalities' don't save you from the law.
With a good lawyer they do!

TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Ah.....


Right.. now I'm starting to understand.

When I read it, I thought he was pulled over for speeding, got away with it, but got a ticket for his numberplate.

I agree with the "roll over and take it" made it sound like he wasn't really sincere about getting busted and holding your hands up, which might have been the difference between a talking to and a couple of fireside stories, and getting three points.


RegMolehusband

4,116 posts

288 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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I was pulled on the A55 D/C in North Wales early this year and shown the video of me doing 93-95.

He was a very decent guy as most are and the chat was all very civil and professional. I certainly felt foolish for being caught. However he did tell me that 3000 people die every year on the roads and 30% of them are "caused by speed". As politely as I could muster I told him that actually it's beneath 2000, and added "but it's still far too many of course", and the DfT figures were changed some time ago showing that 7% of KSIs are caused by excessive speed "not that I'm trying to get into a debate with you".

Anyway he must have thought I was a decent chap because I received just an informal caution torn out of a notepad.