How pettty will they get on the mobile phone laws?
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Quick hypothetical question.
The mobile phone laws cover holding a mobile phone.
So in theory if I am talking to someone on my wire handsfree kit with the phone sitting on my lap or in the door compartment - ie no fixed holder that it could be in, and the police see me talking (on the wire), can they do me as I would have theoretically have had to have picked up the phone to dial the number in the first place?
The mobile phone laws cover holding a mobile phone.
So in theory if I am talking to someone on my wire handsfree kit with the phone sitting on my lap or in the door compartment - ie no fixed holder that it could be in, and the police see me talking (on the wire), can they do me as I would have theoretically have had to have picked up the phone to dial the number in the first place?
Theoretically, I think that's right.....but whether they'd bother to pull you just to check that your phone is fixed somewhere is debatable. I've got a blue tooth headset, and my phone just sits in a pocket on the centre console........they probably look to see if you've got a phone on the side of your face, and if not then I would have thought they'd leave you alone.
Having said that, I suppose that it wouldn't look good in the event of an accident if the phone was shown to not be fixed down and you were making a call at the time!!
Having said that, I suppose that it wouldn't look good in the event of an accident if the phone was shown to not be fixed down and you were making a call at the time!!
jeremyadamson said:
Theoretically, I think that's right.....but whether they'd bother to pull you just to check that your phone is fixed somewhere is debatable. I've got a blue tooth headset, and my phone just sits in a pocket on the centre console........they probably look to see if you've got a phone on the side of your face, and if not then I would have thought they'd leave you alone.
Having said that, I suppose that it wouldn't look good in the event of an accident if the phone was shown to not be fixed down and you were making a call at the time!!
You're right...if you're using a handsfree kit, I would suggest that no BiB will stop you to see if it's fixed etc.
There are enough people breaking the law by using hand held ones to deal with, before peesing about stopping people who have taken the trouble to buy/use handsfree kits.
In response to your last paragraph, in the event of a serious/fatal RTC, the mobile phone of the driver will be seized by police to see whether it was in use at the time of the collision.
No Discretion said:
Use a hands free kit whilst holding a banana to your ear, perfectly legal
Fixed penalty for not being in proper control of your vehicle...(while banana is to your ear)...
Hello Gary, and everyone,
Good grief, are we really saying that a driver is at risk of receiving a fixed penalty every time he is seen driving with less than two hands on the steering wheel - except for the need to make gear changes?
I hope we're not going to have unnecessary enforcement of that one - at least until somebody nicks PC Martin Northam for an extremely casual and laid back steering technique as seen on TV.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
No Discretion said:
In response to your last paragraph, in the event of a serious/fatal RTC, the mobile phone of the driver will be seized by police to see whether it was in use at the time of the collision.
So if I'm driving along and happen to be speaking hands-free, and some nutter decides to carroom off the side of my car into a road bridge and ends up dead, my phone might make a difference to the outcome (for me?)
v15ben said:
My phone has a loudspeaker/handsfree speaker kit built in, but no cradle etc to hold it.
Does that mean that if I take or make calls while driving, with the phone on the dash or door pocket that I could be fined??
If you are required to press a button to answer a call...yes...
In reality....you're not likely to be stopped.
No Discretion said:
Hiya Dave..
laid back isn't the same as not being in control..
Besides.....my friend in that force states MN isn't trafpol anymore...go onto better things...
Howdo Gary,
On the TV sequence Martin was driving a traffic car in a built up area. He was talking to his front seat passenger, and initially holding the steering wheel at about the 3 o'clock position with his right hand. His left hand was waving about in the air as he explained something. Then he fiddled about with something behind the gear lever area, at the same time dropping his right hand from the 3 o'clock position to about 5 o'clock, thereby not actually holding the wheel with either hand for a period of time.
I have nothing against casual or laid back steering, but that amounted to improper control just as much as it might have done with any normal driver.
Merry Christmas all,
Dave.
forever_driving said:
Use a hands free kit whilst holding a banana to your ear, perfectly legal
OK you sad gits!
It's Christmas morning, forget about all this crap and have a laugh.
Best Francie and Josie sketch ever. (They were seriously funny Scots comedians).
They walk on stage at the Metropole in Glasgow and Francie has got a banana stuck in his ear.
Josie: "Francie, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Whit wiz that Josie?"
Josie: "Ah said, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Ye'll hae tae speak up, ah canny hear ye"
Josie: "Fur Goad's sake mon, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear!!!!??"
Francie: "Haud oan a minit!" (Pulls banana out of ear)
"Right! Whit wir ye sayin Josie?"
Josie: "Ah said, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Ah huvnae goat a banana in ma ear Josie!"
Merry Christmas, and for God's sake cheer up!!
IOLAIRE said:
Use a hands free kit whilst holding a banana to your ear, perfectly legal
OK you sad gits!
It's Christmas morning, forget about all this crap and have a laugh.
Best Francie and Josie sketch ever. (They were seriously funny Scots comedians).
They walk on stage at the Metropole in Glasgow and Francie has got a banana stuck in his ear.
Josie: "Francie, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Whit wiz that Josie?"
Josie: "Ah said, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Ye'll hae tae speak up, ah canny hear ye"
Josie: "Fur Goad's sake mon, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear!!!!??"
Francie: "Haud oan a minit!" (Pulls banana out of ear)
"Right! Whit wir ye sayin Josie?"
Josie: "Ah said, whit ur ye daein wi that banana in yer ear?"
Francie: "Ah huvnae goat a banana in ma ear Josie!"
Merry Christmas, and for God's sake cheer up!!
Quite right James.
Best wishes all,
Dave - part time sad git.
TripleS said:
On the TV sequence Martin was driving a traffic car in a built up area. He was talking to his front seat passenger, and initially holding the steering wheel at about the 3 o'clock position with his right hand. His left hand was waving about in the air as he explained something. Then he fiddled about with something behind the gear lever area, at the same time dropping his right hand from the 3 o'clock position to about 5 o'clock, thereby not actually holding the wheel with either hand for a period of time.
I have nothing against casual or laid back steering, but that amounted to improper control just as much as it might have done with any normal driver.
you no unnerstan - he polis, so he ver ver highly trained, he no maka da mistakes - he in control of car even if he in back reading da polis manuel before he throw it at somebody for a-picking da nose when parked at Sainsbury's...
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