How to trace an current address to issue a CCJ?
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Evening all, long story short I need to trace a current address for a debtor as he's just cleared out his business unit and vanished (without paying his bills there either . . .). He's still updating his business and personal FaceBook accounts, and has a new business website that still shows his old address. The claim was based on him being at his business unit as we didn't know he's gone when the claim was submitted.
Just wondered if anyone has any bright ideas. Electoral role is out of date for him.
Cheers all.
Just wondered if anyone has any bright ideas. Electoral role is out of date for him.
Cheers all.
ging84 said:
best thing to do might be have someone pose as a customer
Yep, tried that, it's a wholly online business/scam. He's pretty suspicious because he's now defaulted and failed to deliver to a number of people. He doesn't answer the phone and won't give an address via social media - most of his 'work' seems to come via FaceBook. He owes my wife for design work she did for him back in June/July. Back when mobiles first came out my old boss advertised as a private eye (He was not) and received a call from a suspicious wife who had spotted numerous calls to a number she did not recognise but was answered by a woman who hung up on her.
She wanted the womans name and address.
I rang up as if I was conducting market research for Tesco and explained at the start of the call you will receive Tesco Vouchers in return for 5 minutes of your time. I made up a load of questions up about the lay out of a Tesco and finished the call with "and to who should I send the £20 vouchers and whats the address".
If you can adapt a similar method to be relevant to him and get someone who can talk the talk to ring him it might just work
She wanted the womans name and address.
I rang up as if I was conducting market research for Tesco and explained at the start of the call you will receive Tesco Vouchers in return for 5 minutes of your time. I made up a load of questions up about the lay out of a Tesco and finished the call with "and to who should I send the £20 vouchers and whats the address".
If you can adapt a similar method to be relevant to him and get someone who can talk the talk to ring him it might just work
dacouch said:
Back when mobiles first came out my old boss advertised as a private eye (He was not) and received a call from a suspicious wife who had spotted numerous calls to a number she did not recognise but was answered by a woman who hung up on her.
She wanted the womans name and address.
I rang up as if I was conducting market research for Tesco and explained at the start of the call you will receive Tesco Vouchers in return for 5 minutes of your time. I made up a load of questions up about the lay out of a Tesco and finished the call with "and to who should I send the £20 vouchers and whats the address".
If you can adapt a similar method to be relevant to him and get someone who can talk the talk to ring him it might just work
Not a bad idea! He won't answer the phone at the moment though. She wanted the womans name and address.
I rang up as if I was conducting market research for Tesco and explained at the start of the call you will receive Tesco Vouchers in return for 5 minutes of your time. I made up a load of questions up about the lay out of a Tesco and finished the call with "and to who should I send the £20 vouchers and whats the address".
If you can adapt a similar method to be relevant to him and get someone who can talk the talk to ring him it might just work
A condition of registering a domain name is that the address of the registrant in the whois data must be accurate.
So, if he has a domain name for his website he will need to update that to his current address.
If you contact the registry (Nominet for a .co.uk) you can tell them that the address is not current/correct if he has not updated it, and they'll delete his registration if he doesn't update the registration details.
So - you either get his address, or he loses his website.
So, if he has a domain name for his website he will need to update that to his current address.
If you contact the registry (Nominet for a .co.uk) you can tell them that the address is not current/correct if he has not updated it, and they'll delete his registration if he doesn't update the registration details.
So - you either get his address, or he loses his website.
Dammit said:
A condition of registering a domain name is that the address of the registrant in the whois data must be accurate.
So, if he has a domain name for his website he will need to update that to his current address.
If you contact the registry (Nominet for a .co.uk) you can tell them that the address is not current/correct if he has not updated it, and they'll delete his registration if he doesn't update the registration details.
So - you either get his address, or he loses his website.
That's a great idea. I'll give it a go. Might take a while to produce a result though & I could do with an address to serve the judgement. So, if he has a domain name for his website he will need to update that to his current address.
If you contact the registry (Nominet for a .co.uk) you can tell them that the address is not current/correct if he has not updated it, and they'll delete his registration if he doesn't update the registration details.
So - you either get his address, or he loses his website.
oldhoppy said:
That's a great idea. I'll give it a go. Might take a while to produce a result though & I could do with an address to serve the judgement.
It may work, but my Experience with Nominet is that nothing at all happens in good time sadly. Your best bet is Facebook & Twitter, track him down using his posts, bound to post something with a location at some point.oldhoppy said:
That's a great idea. I'll give it a go. Might take a while to produce a result though & I could do with an address to serve the judgement.
Nominet let private registrants hide their address from Whois searches so I think that only works if it is a corporate body.I am in the same situation as you OP and need to find a debtor. I have engaged a firm to do a trace and they have access to experian data, so assuming he's not a complete economic basket case there should be some records available through his credit score.
Also if you have a suspected address you can ring the electoral services of his local council and they will confirm whether the name appears on that address (on the full register, so no opt out). They won't do any searching for you though.
If the website is purely for personal use - a blog about his hobby, for example - then yes, he can opt out of showing his address.
I got the impression (which may be wrong) that it is his business website though - in which case he has to publish his address.
http://www.nominet.org.uk/uk-domain-names/about-do...
I got the impression (which may be wrong) that it is his business website though - in which case he has to publish his address.
http://www.nominet.org.uk/uk-domain-names/about-do...
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