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DeltaFox

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

261 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Theres a poll operating here: www.wmsafetycameras.co.uk/

Vote according to your beliefs.

pwig

12,003 posts

299 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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I believe its ok to do over 100mph over the speedlimit when conditions allow.

What a stupid question

andygo

7,393 posts

284 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Whats your best reaction time - I did a 0.22, but seem to average about 0.44.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Read it again Pwig ----- it only says up to 10 mph, to which the obvious answer is Yes as this is what the majority are doing already.

DVD

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Read it again Pwig ----- it only says up to 10 mph, to which the obvious answer is Yes as this is what the majority are doing already.

DVD


Yeah but my real answer would be no because 10mph over the speed limit is usually far too slow unless the weather is really bad. 100 mph over the speed limit is probably a bit quick though. Best bet is scrap the limits.

docevi1

10,430 posts

277 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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That question is far to open - in an urban environment 40mph can often be way to high, on a motorway, 70-80mph can be completely safe.

mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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docevi1 said:
That question is far to open - in an urban environment 40mph can often be way to high, on a motorway, 70-80mph can be completely safe.


absolutly, just building more "stats" to suit their case.

MoJo.

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

285 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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The section on "misquoted facts" has an interesting graph: www.wmsafetycameras.co.uk/hottopics3.php

This seems to show that the casualty rate has dipped since the introduction of speed cameras. This is not what Safespeed tells us.

In addition the "more detailed image" www.wmsafetycameras.co.uk/images/graph.gif shows that the introduction of 50 and 70 speed limits in 1964 was associated with a significant drop in casualties.

Comments? I realise statistics can prove anything, and this graph is not attributed so there's no way we can check the sources, but this is the sort of graph that could be used by the anti-car lobby.

>> Edited by Peter Ward on Saturday 1st January 20:49

catso

16,434 posts

296 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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"I think it’s OK to drive up to about 10mph over the speed limit."

What a st question, more turd polishing methinks

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

287 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Read it again Pwig ----- it only says up to 10 mph, to which the obvious answer is Yes as this is what the majority are doing already.

DVD


But 10mph in what limit? I would think 10mph over in a thirty IS too much in some places, or have I read it wrongly?

Also you can't trust the accuracy of the voting system. If you close the page and re open it, it allows you to vote again as it doesn't log your ip address. Pretty poor, but there again it may have been designed like that to give them a get out clause

catso

16,434 posts

296 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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andygo said:
Whats your best reaction time - I did a 0.22, but seem to average about 0.44.


Best 0.24, worst 0.30 (but I'm half pisshed )

regmolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st January 2005
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Does that reaction time table indicate their view of the ability of the average motorist? Anybody who can't consistently get 0.5 seconds or under must have a connection problem! - and as for the two seconds end of the scale, an accident waiting to happen!!

I got .25 or under with little effort.

love machine

7,609 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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I was getting 0.55 by really trying, but when I relaxed and just stared at the screen, I got down to 0.2 and 0.18!!!

There must have been a stress related component there.

paolow

3,261 posts

287 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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you guys rekon youre good? i just got a time of 00.02!
i took a screenshot as proof if anyone wants to upload it? (ive nowhere to host...)

regmolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Better to let us know what you're average of ten is and if it's less than 0.2 seconds THEN we'll be impressed

regmolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Ive just realised what a pathetic little program that reactions tester is. The STOP comes after about 4 seconds on every occasion so with a little practice you can anticipate it and get fast times. I wrote a little reactions program 20 years ago on Sinclair and the timing was random.

Why is everything these people do so basic/thick/dumbed-down/simplistic/unprofessional/cack-handed and naive in the extreme???

"Reg"

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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Why is the NO choice highlighted in bright red? That by any chance wouldn't be the answer they were after would it? They ask loaded questions and highlight the answer they want in a "non-bias" poll of peoples opinions and it still goes against them

What are the odds that the next question will read:

"Is it acceptable to run over a child while driving over the speed limit?"

When the overwhelming majority says no, this can then be used as evidence that most drivers want speed cameras

supraman2954

3,241 posts

268 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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That reaction test is RUBBISH. I know for a fact that my reaction time is within 0.25 sec (for a push button test), yet according to this test I could only muster an average of 0.45 sec. So I did some controlled tests I found that the displayed time is about more than double the actual! Why else would the table cater for people with 2 second reaction times?
Try it for youself; wait 2-3 seconds before pressing the button and see the results.

unless I'm on a really slow PC

More propaganda methinks!

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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I counted 3 seconds and it said 2.94 seconds so either I count really slow or there is something wrong with your pc

mark-111r

106 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd January 2005
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it seems tat to me!