why does 100mph seem to be so bad?
why does 100mph seem to be so bad?
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hertsbiker

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6,443 posts

300 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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???

surely 1mph over 99 is only 1% "worse" ?

crazy world.


paolow

3,261 posts

287 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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hertsbiker said:
???

surely 1mph over 99 is only 1% "worse" ?

crazy world.




its a nice round number and you have to draw the line somewhere i suppose...

Roadcop

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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It's a case of a line has to be drawn somewhere...

Besides, only a small number of motorists are safe at 100mph+

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Roadcop said:

Besides, only a small number of motorists are safe at 100mph+


True. But there's only a small number who are truly safe at 70mph as well!

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Roadcop said:
It's a case of a line has to be drawn somewhere...

Besides, only a small number of motorists are safe at 100mph+


Gary - is that your view regardless of the type of road and the weather and traffic conditions?

Also, what type(s) of driving behaviour do you see that leads you to conclude that most drivers are not safe at 100 mph?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

TimW

3,848 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Its sort of a pyschilogical barrier...

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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The only unsafe ones are those who drive at 100mph and feel uncomfortable.

Mind you, that doesn't really include thick people.

Roadcop

655 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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TripleS said:

Roadcop said:
It's a case of a line has to be drawn somewhere...

Besides, only a small number of motorists are safe at 100mph+



Gary - is that your view regardless of the type of road and the weather and traffic conditions?

Also, what type(s) of driving behaviour do you see that leads you to conclude that most drivers are not safe at 100 mph?

Best wishes all,
Dave.


weather, visibility and road conditions play a huge part in what I consider to be inappropriate speed.

As for types of driving behaviour....there is the obvious; tail gaiting, passing vehicles in the next lane, on sharp motorway bend, near to entrance/exit slip etc..

As for those i can't see....who knows...but the driver who does 100mph one day, just could be the driver who sits in the middle lane the next, or the one I sit behind with blues/headlights/sirens on...and they dont' see/hear me.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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OK, deserted motorway. Four lanes, 2 AM, no other traffic, no sliproads. Performance car, correctly maintained etc. Competent driver, skid pan trained and an advenced motorcyclist.


140MPH, dangerous? If you do think so, why would that be the case?

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

279 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Going 100 in the porsche seems like 60 in our truck. Most people experience the truck version, thus it seems bad to them. If you are a skilled driver and aware of whats going on around you, 100 mph is hardly bad, but a nice easy pace.

Wacky Racer

41,336 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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BliarOut said:
OK, deserted motorway. Four lanes, 2 AM, no other traffic, no sliproads. Performance car, correctly maintained etc. Competent driver, skid pan trained and an advenced motorcyclist.


140MPH, dangerous? If you do think so, why would that be the case?



Because a sudden front tyre blowout at 140mph would be a LOT more dangerous than one at 90mph.......

Gulliver

673 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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140 mph on a desert motorway ? Dangerous ?

The Germans don't think so.

The Autobahn has better safety records than many others european roads.

The limits we have today in the UK were set a generation ago, largely arbitrarily i think

welsh blackbird

692 posts

273 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Chief Inspector in charge of North Wales traffic:-

"If you are driving along the A55 at 2.00am at 100mph, what business is it of ours"

Nuff said!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Wacky Racer said:

BliarOut said:
OK, deserted motorway. Four lanes, 2 AM, no other traffic, no sliproads. Performance car, correctly maintained etc. Competent driver, skid pan trained and an advenced motorcyclist.


140MPH, dangerous? If you do think so, why would that be the case?




Because a sudden front tyre blowout at 140mph would be a LOT more dangerous than one at 90mph.......


Both would most likely end in a crash and are dangerous. Blowouts are rare since tubeless tyres. Not impossible, but rare.

Are we to stop the police driving at this speed in a persuit then in case of a blowout?

Gulliver

673 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Wacky Racer said:


BliarOut said:
OK, deserted motorway. Four lanes, 2 AM, no other traffic, no sliproads. Performance car, correctly maintained etc. Competent driver, skid pan trained and an advenced motorcyclist.


140MPH, dangerous? If you do think so, why would that be the case?





Because a sudden front tyre blowout at 140mph would be a LOT more dangerous than one at 90mph.......



Germany.

Less casualty per mile travelled.

We can debate this for ages, but the limits we have have been set a long time ago and have a remote link to absolute safety limits.

I would like someone against increasing today's limit to comment on the Autobahn example.....

>> Edited by Gulliver on Tuesday 4th January 21:30

Wacky Racer

41,336 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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BliarOut said:

Both would most likely end in a crash and are dangerous. Blowouts are rare since tubeless tyres. Not impossible, but rare.



I would rather have a blowout.(rare or not) at 90mph than 140mph, apart from the fact that if you were unlucky enough to be caught doing those kind of speeds, you would more likely than not go to Prison for six months, possibly lose your job, face large insurance premium rises in later years, is it REALLY worth it to save five or six minutes..........

Imo there is NO reason for anybody to want to exceed 90/100mph on a public road, if you REALLY want to go faster book a track day...........

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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I would rather have a blowout at 20 mph! The question was is 140MPH inherently dangerous under the right conditions? Not is it legal.

Wacky Racer

41,336 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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BliarOut said:
I would rather have a blowout at 20 mph! The question was is 140MPH inherently dangerous under the right conditions? Not is it legal.



OK then......Yes.

Gulliver

673 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Wacky Racer said:

BliarOut said:

Both would most likely end in a crash and are dangerous. Blowouts are rare since tubeless tyres. Not impossible, but rare.




Imo there is NO reason for anybody to want to exceed 90/100mph on a public road, if you REALLY want to go faster book a track day...........



To go there faster.

To spend less time on the road (Reducing your risks to a good degree also by spending less time on the road).


I cross Germany several times a year.

You save hours in this case with a higher average speed, not minutes.

Plus less chances to fall asleep (Cause of a large amount of accidents by the way....) than if you slug it out at 70 mph like a drone......

Wacky Racer

41,336 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th January 2005
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Gulliver said:

I cross Germany several times a year.





We are taking about England here,NOT Germany...

The maximum speed limit in England, (like it or not) is 70mph, so you don't need to be a genius to work out that IF you are caught doing 140 mph, you are exceeding the speed limit by 100%, and almost certainly will go to prison for a few months......At the very least you would receive a VERY heavy fine....

I would just point out that my last motorcycle was a Suzuki GSXR 1000, top speed in excess of 185mph, so I like speed as much as anybody, but not at the risk of my life OR licence, which has been clean and accident free for the past 35 years.....