Can someone who can't drive insure a car?
Can someone who can't drive insure a car?
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pingu393

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11,168 posts

236 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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My mum is getting too old to drive, but the only car she is comfortable in is her Suzuki Wagon R. At the moment, her insurance is for all drivers, but with her as the main driver. When we visit, we drive her around in her car.

If she were to be declared blind (for example), would she still be able to get insurance, or does there always need to be a named main driver?

I know there will be humourous PHers who suggest going to a broker. I will be doing this, but I just want to know if anyone has any experience of the situation.

Shaw Tarse

31,901 posts

234 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Talk to the insurance co/ broker.
Years ago I knew someone who was done for drunkdriving
He had to employ people to drive him around

TheRainMaker

7,886 posts

273 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Declared Blind = No Diving Licence

No reson to have insurance if you can't drive smile can't see any insurance company covering that tbh.

Let us know what you find out when you speak to the insurance company smile



Edited by TheRainMaker on Saturday 10th January 18:23

Jasandjules

72,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Well, surely the main driver should be the person who mainly drives the car - otherwise it sounds a touch like fronting?


LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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For a person to take out a insurance policy one of the initial key pieces of criteria is that "You (the proposer amd policyholder) hold a current driving licence amd are not prevented from holding one due to disqualification or medical reasons" or words to that effect. It will be in the original assumptions that you agree to on any online application and one of the first things you agree to in the T&Cs on a paper application

You will always be physically able to take one out and pay, whether it is held to be valid in the event of a claim is a whole different story, as you will be making a false declaration to get to the payment stage.

Vaud

59,853 posts

186 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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LoonR1 will correct me if I am wrong but there is nothing stopping her continuing to own the car and be the registered keeper and have her main driver taking out a policy, providing everything is declared to the insurer?

pingu393

Original Poster:

11,168 posts

236 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Jasandjules said:
Well, surely the main driver should be the person who mainly drives the car - otherwise it sounds a touch like fronting?
The point is that if she stops driving, there will not be a main driver, but there will be a main passenger.

It would be next to impossible to decide who the main driver would be. She is ferried by neighbours, family and friends, but hardly ever drives herself - but it's always in her car.

Vaud

59,853 posts

186 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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pingu393 said:
The point is that if she stops driving, there will not be a main driver, but there will be a main passenger.

It would be next to impossible to decide who the main driver would be. She is ferried by neighbours, family and friends, but hardly ever drives herself - but it's always in her car.
But providing there was one lead driver, and named, who were roughly of equal risk and all was declared then an insurer would be happy? Key is probably to talk to a knowledgeable broker rather than try to do anything through a web pricing system. (apologies OP, but a good broker is probably your best bet)

TwigtheWonderkid

49,211 posts

181 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Yes, you can have an insurance policy even if you do not hold a licence. It can't be done online, but will have to be done face to face, or thru a broker. Insurer will issue the policy either naming the people who will drive (which will not include the policyholder) or if it's an any driver policy, they will specifically exclude the policyholder.

It's not that common but is done. Aviva are one insurer who will do it.

Slidingpillar

761 posts

167 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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NFU Mutual will too. I had to surrender my driving licence for medical reasons about 4 years ago and transferring the driver to my brother was easy. From memory, didn't cost me anything either. Got licence back now, but no longer with NFU Mutual.

Countdown

49,519 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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pingu393 said:
My mum is getting too old to drive, but the only car she is comfortable in is her Suzuki Wagon R. At the moment, her insurance is for all drivers, but with her as the main driver. When we visit, we drive her around in her car.

If she were to be declared blind (for example), would she still be able to get insurance, or does there always need to be a named main driver?

I know there will be humourous PHers who suggest going to a broker. I will be doing this, but I just want to know if anyone has any experience of the situation.
Why not just drive her around in your car? That way she can save money on all the other motoring costs as well.

Vaud

59,853 posts

186 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Countdown said:
pingu393 said:
My mum is getting too old to drive, but the only car she is comfortable in is her Suzuki Wagon R. At the moment, her insurance is for all drivers, but with her as the main driver. When we visit, we drive her around in her car.

If she were to be declared blind (for example), would she still be able to get insurance, or does there always need to be a named main driver?

I know there will be humourous PHers who suggest going to a broker. I will be doing this, but I just want to know if anyone has any experience of the situation.
Why not just drive her around in your car? That way she can save money on all the other motoring costs as well.
I guess from the note in the OP?

Sheepshanks

41,292 posts

150 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Vaud said:
LoonR1 will correct me if I am wrong but there is nothing stopping her continuing to own the car and be the registered keeper and have her main driver taking out a policy, providing everything is declared to the insurer?
I tried to insure MIL's unused car a few years ago and was told I couldn't as I had no insurable interest in the car.

Countdown

49,519 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Vaud said:
I guess from the note in the OP?
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LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I tried to insure MIL's unused car a few years ago and was told I couldn't as I had no insurable interest in the car.
Well that a load of bks. HP / PCP / lease etc you don't own the car but can insure it.

Insurable Interest is massively overused as a phrase on this site.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Just to clarify my initial answer was regarding the normal mainstream policies that we all usually buy. The others are correct that there may be some insurers who will offer cover on a more specific basis.

BertBert

21,312 posts

242 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Just to clarify my initial answer was regarding the normal mainstream policies that we all usually buy. The others are correct that there may be some insurers who will offer cover on a more specific basis.
Just wondering why you gave a blanket "no", when the answer is "yes"? The OP didn't specify "the normal mainstream policies that we all usually buy".

Sheepshanks

41,292 posts

150 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Sheepshanks said:
I tried to insure MIL's unused car a few years ago and was told I couldn't as I had no insurable interest in the car.
Well that a load of bks. HP / PCP / lease etc you don't own the car but can insure it.
That makes sense - you have an interest in the car by way of the responsibility you've signed up to in the contract.

But you often can't use online systems for getting insurance on a lease car as the assumptions are generally that you own the car and are the RK. I guess many people ignore this, or it never occurs to them that they don't own the car.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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BertBert said:
Just wondering why you gave a blanket "no", when the answer is "yes"? The OP didn't specify "the normal mainstream policies that we all usually buy".
Because the majority of people are asking about the general stuff and want to buy the cheapest policy form the cheapest site. You're not going tonfind it there and reality is that the cost will often be more than getting a taxi everywhere. The specifics of the polocyholder the OP wants are quite niche. A lot of drivers, no idea who will drive it the most, car owned by his Mum.

The reality is that the answer to every single question around insurance is "yes, if you're prepared to pay for it".

pingu393

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11,168 posts

236 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Thanks. I just wanted to know if it could be done - and, it seems, it can be and has been. I knew it couldn't be done online.

It doesn't need to be done yet, but I'll resurrect this thread in ten years if it does - hopefully longer smile.