O/head gantries (again)
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covboy

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2,593 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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At the risk of raising an earler debated topic about differing speeds shown on one gantry - I hold my hand up to seeing one tonight -

Approaching J8 North on the M6 -its always a bit frought because J7 has two lanes joining - the inner lane being the ex - hard shoulder, running to the M5 south. Anyway the OH gantry on the approach was showing 30 for lane 1 and 50 for lanes 2 & 3. Following the sign I get ready to get into the inner lane to take the M5 - low and behold a stationary car. The next Gantry then had a red cross. Cue confusion all round.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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covboy said:
At the risk of raising an earler debated topic about differing speeds shown on one gantry - I hold my hand up to seeing one tonight -

Approaching J8 North on the M6 -its always a bit frought because J7 has two lanes joining - the inner lane being the ex - hard shoulder, running to the M5 south. Anyway the OH gantry on the approach was showing 30 for lane 1 and 50 for lanes 2 & 3. Following the sign I get ready to get into the inner lane to take the M5 - low and behold a stationary car. The next Gantry then had a red cross. Cue confusion all round.
It's not that confusing. Don't hit the stationary car would be the first priority, worrying about whether you can do 30 or 50 is pretty well moot. The Red Cross still means do not go further in that lane.

Gafferjim

1,337 posts

296 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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The difference in speeds on the same gantry would be because lane 1 would be marked as a dedicated lane for the sliproad (check the white line between that lane and the next) the dedicated lane is treated as a separate entity to the lanes that continue.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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covboy said:
At the risk of raising an earler debated topic about differing speeds shown on one gantry - I hold my hand up to seeing one tonight -

Approaching J8 North on the M6 -its always a bit frought because J7 has two lanes joining - the inner lane being the ex - hard shoulder, running to the M5 south. Anyway the OH gantry on the approach was showing 30 for lane 1 and 50 for lanes 2 & 3. Following the sign I get ready to get into the inner lane to take the M5 - low and behold a stationary car. The next Gantry then had a red cross. Cue confusion all round.
The differing speed limits several of us were reporting seeing (including a serving traffic officer), were all on the same carriageway, and were different for every lane, 20,30,40,50 was the one I've seen the most (4 lane stretch of the M42).

You are unlikely to see these again, as the HA have promised to stop doing it (as it isn't allowed).

Landshark

2,117 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Nigel Worc's said:
covboy said:
At the risk of raising an earler debated topic about differing speeds shown on one gantry - I hold my hand up to seeing one tonight -

Approaching J8 North on the M6 -its always a bit frought because J7 has two lanes joining - the inner lane being the ex - hard shoulder, running to the M5 south. Anyway the OH gantry on the approach was showing 30 for lane 1 and 50 for lanes 2 & 3. Following the sign I get ready to get into the inner lane to take the M5 - low and behold a stationary car. The next Gantry then had a red cross. Cue confusion all round.
The differing speed limits several of us were reporting seeing (including a serving traffic officer), were all on the same carriageway, and were different for every lane, 20,30,40,50 was the one I've seen the most (4 lane stretch of the M42).

You are unlikely to see these again, as the HA have promised to stop doing it (as it isn't allowed).
Saw it again tonight on the M25, Tut'ing away to myself!

Lane 1 dedicated slip - throw in right arrow
Lane 2 dedicated slip - 30 mph
Lane 1 main c'way - 30 mph
Lane 2 main c'way - 50 mph
Lane 3 main c'way - 50 mph

Confusing to say the least!

covboy

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2,593 posts

205 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Gafferjim said:
The difference in speeds on the same gantry would be because lane 1 would be marked as a dedicated lane for the sliproad (check the white line between that lane and the next) the dedicated lane is treated as a separate entity to the lanes that continue.
Not in this case Gafferjim

It was the gantry prior to the on junction. Still 3 lane M6

Lane 1 - 30
Lane 2 – 50
Lane 3 – 50
At the slip entry – then its 5 lanes
In this case
Lane1 - Dedicated to M5 South
Lane 2 – Slip onto M6
3,4,5 Normal M6
The broken down car was in lane 1 and the red cross was on the gantry after that