Landlord problems
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Hi all
Can I ask some advice please from anyone who actually knows about this stuff.
Basically our washer/dryer stopped working in our rented property and the landlord has taken it upon himself to source the cheapest replacement washer you can get but hasn't bothered with the dryer part and so we are left with no tumble dryer which is causing problems already as there is not enough space to dry clothes in rooms.
We're in a worse position now than before and we've explained this via the Estate Agent who have said that he won't provide an explanation for his decision other than that is what he has decided to do and he has advised putting clothes on a hot water tank as well as a clothes hanger which is not a solution.
The contract simply states that it is his responsibility to replace defective appliances but doesn't state anything more than that.
Do we have any option of getting him to replace like for like or is it just tough for us and we'll have to lump it?
The estate agent has simply said we should contact CAB.
Thanks for any answers.
Can I ask some advice please from anyone who actually knows about this stuff.
Basically our washer/dryer stopped working in our rented property and the landlord has taken it upon himself to source the cheapest replacement washer you can get but hasn't bothered with the dryer part and so we are left with no tumble dryer which is causing problems already as there is not enough space to dry clothes in rooms.
We're in a worse position now than before and we've explained this via the Estate Agent who have said that he won't provide an explanation for his decision other than that is what he has decided to do and he has advised putting clothes on a hot water tank as well as a clothes hanger which is not a solution.
The contract simply states that it is his responsibility to replace defective appliances but doesn't state anything more than that.
Do we have any option of getting him to replace like for like or is it just tough for us and we'll have to lump it?
The estate agent has simply said we should contact CAB.
Thanks for any answers.
Depends but on what your tenancy says but i think a washer dryer is not the landlords issue, if you have a property description stating its provided it helps? was it built in or free standing?
To be honest your best off getting your own and move on. Are you in a position to fall out with your agent and landlord and get another property easily ? Its not something you are normally on a good footing with I assume your in unfurnished. Most rentals you have to provide your own washing and drying facilities and a tumble dryer is considered by some a luxury.
Think the landlord has complied with the agreement by replacing the appliance the spec size or features or lack there of.
Honestly I am not sure about your local rental market or whether you have an assured period but kicking up stink about that will just get you labeled a problem tenant and I expect if the landlord can serve notice on you they will.
To be honest your best off getting your own and move on. Are you in a position to fall out with your agent and landlord and get another property easily ? Its not something you are normally on a good footing with I assume your in unfurnished. Most rentals you have to provide your own washing and drying facilities and a tumble dryer is considered by some a luxury.
Think the landlord has complied with the agreement by replacing the appliance the spec size or features or lack there of.
Honestly I am not sure about your local rental market or whether you have an assured period but kicking up stink about that will just get you labeled a problem tenant and I expect if the landlord can serve notice on you they will.
Edited by jbsportstech on Tuesday 27th January 21:08
jbsportstech said:
Depends but on what your tenancy says but i think a washer dryer is not the landlords issue, if you have a property description stating its provided it helps? was it built in or free standing?
To be honest your best off getting your own and move on. Are you in a position to fall out with your agent and landlord and get another property easily ? Its not something you are normally on a good footing with I assume your in unfurnished. Most rentals you have to provide your own washing and drying facilities and a tumble dryer is considered by some a luxury.
Integrated and in the inventory. House was fully furnished. Going to be here until the summer so just asking if he is obliged to replace like for like or whether we just have to put up with it.To be honest your best off getting your own and move on. Are you in a position to fall out with your agent and landlord and get another property easily ? Its not something you are normally on a good footing with I assume your in unfurnished. Most rentals you have to provide your own washing and drying facilities and a tumble dryer is considered by some a luxury.
As a landlord I always try to replace like for like esp mid tenancy. If I'm removing appliances etc I wait until a change of tenant.
I'm not defending him here but in my experience from a landlords POV washing machine and tumble dryers are a PITA. You don't really get anymore rent and they seem to go wrong more than other appliances
I'm not defending him here but in my experience from a landlords POV washing machine and tumble dryers are a PITA. You don't really get anymore rent and they seem to go wrong more than other appliances
jbsportstech said:
TheBear said:
Integrated and in the inventory. House was fully furnished. Going to be here until the summer so just asking if he is obliged to replace like for like or whether we just have to put up with it.
How far into your assured period are you.I would have thought that, from the landlords perspective, having a condensing washer dryer is less of a pain than the mega humid air caused by trying to dry clothes indoors, in winter. As prolonged humid air and cold walls leads to black mold.
Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:30
Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:31
stuart313 said:
Surely he has to replace like for like otherwise he could replace it with a washing up bowl.
Of course he does. The OP should politely insist the LL replaces the faulty dryer. End of. There is no grey area or ambiguity. The property came with an appliance. the OP is paying for it.xxChrisxx said:
I would have thought that, from the landlords perspective, having a condensing washer dryer is less of a pain than the mega humid air caused by trying to dry clothes indoors, in winter. As prolonged humid air and cold walls leads to black mold.
This times a 100.Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:30
Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:31
If when you viewed the property and it had a washer dryer, you are entitled to have a a replacement with an appliance of similar type and quality. This might not be enshrined in law, but it is how the TDS view the situation, in my experience.
A few years back I had a really horrid tenant, the dishwasher broke, the flat had a built in Neff one (I think) could not get one quickly so replaced it with a Smeg, she went off the deep end... it no longer matched the other things in the kitchen, it would ruin her life bla bla bla bla. I could understand her point if I was replacing a Neff with a White Beko, but it was built in, so looked the same from the outside! She got really nasty over it, and ended up withholding rent etc! TDS found in my favour, but would not had it been replaced with a cheapo budget make.
Thanks for all the advice.
Out of the blue the estate agent have told me they have been pushing him on this and that he has now requested a house inspection.
The EA said that this was unusual and that he may want to compromise but the cynical side of me thinks that he is coming to try to get some leverage on anything at all to avoid what I would consider his responsibility.
I have told them that I will obviously comply with the inspection as it states in the contract that I should allow this to happen with reasonable notice and I have got nothing to hide. Every imperfection that exists has been photographed and logged upon commencing the tenancy and there has been no damage caused since.
I don't really know what to expect and I don't see any genuine reason for an inspection all of a sudden but I feel as though I should be wary.
Out of the blue the estate agent have told me they have been pushing him on this and that he has now requested a house inspection.
The EA said that this was unusual and that he may want to compromise but the cynical side of me thinks that he is coming to try to get some leverage on anything at all to avoid what I would consider his responsibility.
I have told them that I will obviously comply with the inspection as it states in the contract that I should allow this to happen with reasonable notice and I have got nothing to hide. Every imperfection that exists has been photographed and logged upon commencing the tenancy and there has been no damage caused since.
I don't really know what to expect and I don't see any genuine reason for an inspection all of a sudden but I feel as though I should be wary.
nikaiyo2 said:
xxChrisxx said:
I would have thought that, from the landlords perspective, having a condensing washer dryer is less of a pain than the mega humid air caused by trying to dry clothes indoors, in winter. As prolonged humid air and cold walls leads to black mold.
This times a 100.Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:30
Edited by xxChrisxx on Tuesday 27th January 22:31
If when you viewed the property and it had a washer dryer, you are entitled to have a a replacement with an appliance of similar type and quality. This might not be enshrined in law, but it is how the TDS view the situation, in my experience.
A few years back I had a really horrid tenant, the dishwasher broke, the flat had a built in Neff one (I think) could not get one quickly so replaced it with a Smeg, she went off the deep end... it no longer matched the other things in the kitchen, it would ruin her life bla bla bla bla. I could understand her point if I was replacing a Neff with a White Beko, but it was built in, so looked the same from the outside! She got really nasty over it, and ended up withholding rent etc! TDS found in my favour, but would not had it been replaced with a cheapo budget make.
It's clear there's nobs on both sides.Why not just buy a CONDENSING tumble dryer, they are not that expensive, around £200 you can put them anywhere in the house, and you will be able to take it with you in a few months. You could probably pick up a decent used one for £40 and throw it away afterwards.
None condensing tumble dryers are so 1970's.........
None condensing tumble dryers are so 1970's.........
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