Mobile phone in car? Have a fine.
Discussion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...
Is this the thin end of the wedge?
I can't see how they can do anything unless it is proven the driver was on the phone.
Good use of Speed Awareness Course resources too.
Is this the thin end of the wedge?
I can't see how they can do anything unless it is proven the driver was on the phone.
Good use of Speed Awareness Course resources too.
55palfers said:
What wedge to what result, catching people using mobile phones whilst driving perhaps?
hole driver was on the phone oblivious to the hassle he was casing.drivelling nonsense said:
And though fines are not yet being issued, the technology could easily be developed to turn it into speed camera-style automatic fine collector.
how would they plan to do that?last time i check there was no off the shelf automated driver behaviour recognition software which can detect those who are and are not using a hand held device, and it would most certainly not be easily developed.
ging84 said:
drivelling nonsense said:
And though fines are not yet being issued, the technology could easily be developed to turn it into speed camera-style automatic fine collector.
how would they plan to do that?last time i check there was no off the shelf automated driver behaviour recognition software which can detect those who are and are not using a hand held device, and it would most certainly not be easily developed.
ging84 said:
how would they plan to do that?
last time i check there was no off the shelf automated driver behaviour recognition software which can detect those who are and are not using a hand held device, and it would most certainly not be easily developed.
There's a brilliant new invention, it's called photography. last time i check there was no off the shelf automated driver behaviour recognition software which can detect those who are and are not using a hand held device, and it would most certainly not be easily developed.
fatboy b said:
What happens when a passenger is using a phone legitimatley I wonder. Hardly going to be enforceable really IMO.
If the detector triggers a photograph then some drivers will be caught - clearly seen using a held held mobile phone whilst driving. Seems enforceable to me. The photographs would need to be high resolution and processed by a person before s172 notices are sent out (mobile phone offence doesn't require a NIP)Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 7th February 19:26
It would be relatively simple to set up a system where the signal detector triggered a camera as the car passed, which would provide evidence of whether the driver was using a handheld phone. Obviously it would be necessary to check the photographs before taking action - either by using some sophisticated image processing software (no idea whether that is feasible or not) or failing that, a bloke in front of a screen employing the MK1 eyeball. If they can do that, all well and good. The suggestion that motorists would be fined purely for having a phone in the car is pure journalistic wibbling.
plasticpig said:
It's technically feasible to distinguish between voice and data.
I wouldn't like to try; for gsm (possible based on timeslot), WCDMA (tricky, you need to know the code allocation, and even if you did you have no idea what the user is doing with a data connection), LTE (very tricky, you'd be looking for a SPS allocation every 20ms and assuming the phone was doing nothing else at all). All three versions of the Uu are encrypted and the device in question will not have the keys.
Additional note. While this *is* what I do for a living, interception isn't part of my core competency.
And, I've slept for 4 hours in the last 36, not given the matter very much thought and consumed a not insignificant amount of alcohol.
So, there is a decent chance the above is garbage.
And, I've slept for 4 hours in the last 36, not given the matter very much thought and consumed a not insignificant amount of alcohol.
So, there is a decent chance the above is garbage.
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