Police car Blue lights - not flashing
Police car Blue lights - not flashing
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TTmonkey

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20,911 posts

270 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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On the M4 this morning, a Police car zooming down lane 3, has its blue lights on, but they weren't flashing/rotating - they were constant.

What does this mean, what's the significance, what should other road users do etc?

Thanks in advance.

R_U_LOCAL

2,705 posts

231 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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It means the motor in the lights was probably broken.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

213 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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anonymous said:
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Not sure there are many motorised ones left, but if it was it could be the motor/belt gone.

We've not had a strobe fail "on" before, not sure if it's possible, but we've had the LED ones fail "on" and they are blinding.

balls-out

3,794 posts

254 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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epilepsy sufferer?

EmmaJ

4,525 posts

169 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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I've seen the same car with his blues "stuck" on solid on several occasions, always making reasonable progress in lane 3. Presume it's a way to get people to move over without actually being on a shout and having the full blues and twos....?


Tunku

7,703 posts

251 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Maybe the OP blinks at the same rate the lights flash at...

speedking31

3,810 posts

159 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Ambulances seem to have a solid blue on the rear as well as the strobing LEDs.

Shwar25

6,565 posts

220 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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speedking31 said:
Ambulances seem to have a solid blue on the rear as well as the strobing LEDs.
I believe this is incase it gets caught by any speed/red light cameras.

The operator of the camera can then tell the vehicle was on a blue light run, it can be quite hard to tell with strobing lights.

balls-out

3,794 posts

254 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Shwar25 said:
I believe this is incase it gets caught by any speed/red light cameras.

The operator of the camera can then tell the vehicle was on a blue light run, it can be quite hard to tell with strobing lights.
Does an operator really manually check each ticket issued? I assumed it was automatic.

I also didn't think it mattered if the blue light was on?

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

158 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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balls-out said:
Does an operator really manually check each ticket issued? I assumed it was automatic.

I also didn't think it mattered if the blue light was on?
It's automatic, but the ANPR would pick up the plate as being an emergency services vehicle and it would be passed to an operator to check.

TTmonkey

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20,911 posts

270 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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The whole bar was lit up blue. However, the headlights usually flash when they are on a shout too don't they? There was no headlight action, and no other lights flashing, just the roof bar was lit up blue.


I don't know if it was on a 'shout' or not.



Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

151 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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The operator can chose what lights to have on/off and can opt for the headlights to flash or not (not all cars have flashing headlights) there is a panel which gives you the options to select what you want on. Different siren options too. Personally not familiar with solid Blues though. There's hardly any of the old style motorised (crap) lights left now, with them being replaced by the infinitely better led ones.

EmmaJ

4,525 posts

169 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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TTmonkey said:
The whole bar was lit up blue. However, the headlights usually flash when they are on a shout too don't they? There was no headlight action, and no other lights flashing, just the roof bar was lit up blue.


I don't know if it was on a 'shout' or not.
OP this is exactly what I've seen on numerous occasions when I use to commute from Reading to Hangar Lane, I'd often see him lit up but not in a massive rush though making progress on the M4 as described. Seemed very much a normal, regular thing rather than needing to get somewhere at maximum warp.

Nothing against the driver, let's be honest if we could light up some solid blue lights and have the sea of cars part before us, wouldn't you?

Elroy Blue

8,817 posts

215 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Not the clearest photo, but you can select individual lights, so flashing headlights are not automatically illuminated.


JumboBeef

3,772 posts

200 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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balls-out said:
Shwar25 said:
I believe this is incase it gets caught by any speed/red light cameras.

The operator of the camera can then tell the vehicle was on a blue light run, it can be quite hard to tell with strobing lights.
Does an operator really manually check each ticket issued? I assumed it was automatic.

I also didn't think it mattered if the blue light was on?
It does on an ambulance. Whilst an ambulance can technically respond to an emergency and claim exemption to the speed limit without using lights, all ambulance services have it as policy that visible warning devices (blue lights) have to be used when claiming a speed exemption.

Ambulance claiming speed exemption: lights on. Otherwise questions will be asked.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

151 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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All cars are fitted with telemetry equipment now which record everything. Very unlikely that response cars are regularly using the blues to get home for tea etc etc.
some cars/drivers are authorised to exceed the limit more than others, which could be why some seem to be going faster than others. Sometimes a lead car might be holding back a bit waiting for more units, but still making ground. Number of possibilities, but unlikely someone just having a jolly, as it would only take one call and that driver could be having to justify himself to the bosses.

EmmaJ

4,525 posts

169 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Elroy Blue said:
Not the clearest photo, but you can select individual lights, so flashing headlights are not automatically illuminated.

Picture for the gums itch thread....

Green buttons and orange gauges!!!

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

200 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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EmmaJ said:
Nothing against the driver, let's be honest if we could light up some solid blue lights and have the sea of cars part before us, wouldn't you?
No.

mdglen

91 posts

185 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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EmmaJ said:
Nothing against the driver, let's be honest if we could light up some solid blue lights and have the sea of cars part before us, wouldn't you?
Many years ago, for his job, my dad had concealed blues and twos fitted to his personal car. Considering the amount of use three of his sons made of this feature, I am amazed none of us ever got caught. They were handy for getting out of festival car parks, getting tail-gaters off your arse, or scaring innocent young chaps who just happened to have parked up in a secluded country lane.

wiliferus

4,198 posts

221 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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If it was in TVP area, a lot of their TraffPol cars have 'Cruise' lights, where the bar glows blue.

Generally two uses - to move with the flow of traffic and slow things down with increased presence a bit if the TDi S-Line gang in L3 are moving a bit too swiftly.

Secondly to make non immediate response progress - going to an RTC that might already have a unit on scene but you still need to get there quicker than the regular traffic flow allows, so the cruise blues help to move things over a bit quicker.