EU to penalise uk licences with penalties from abroad
Discussion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...
I think this topic has been discussed before, but it does seem to be edging closer to reality.
One thing that doesn't seem to be addressed is the right of appeal or your day in court. I suspect your day in court may be impractical, but how does say a Portugese level of penalty apply to a UK driving licence?
I think this topic has been discussed before, but it does seem to be edging closer to reality.
One thing that doesn't seem to be addressed is the right of appeal or your day in court. I suspect your day in court may be impractical, but how does say a Portugese level of penalty apply to a UK driving licence?
andygo said:
In the article it states that penalty points can be applied to uk licences under the proposals.
The debate tomorrow and vote on Wednesday is not about harmonisation of the penalty point system. The article says there will be a vote next year about harmonisation. There's another thread with better details (if you read the links).
The harmonising of points will be virtually impossible to implement unless every EU country adopts the same system for the awarding of points. There already exists cross boarder information exchanges between a number of countries so nothing will really change for those who live in the 'main' EU countries. It will also be very interesting if the letters are sent to the RK and there is no real proof of who was driving as insurance in mainland Europe covers the car and not the driver.
I am also willing to bet the France was the main proponent of this as their cameras are regularlly set off by UK and German drivers and they need the money!
I am also willing to bet the France was the main proponent of this as their cameras are regularlly set off by UK and German drivers and they need the money!
krallicious said:
The harmonising of points will be virtually impossible to implement unless every EU country adopts the same system for the awarding of points. There already exists cross boarder information exchanges between a number of countries so nothing will really change for those who live in the 'main' EU countries. It will also be very interesting if the letters are sent to the RK and there is no real proof of who was driving as insurance in mainland Europe covers the car and not the driver.
I am also willing to bet the France was the main proponent of this as their cameras are regularlly set off by UK and German drivers and they need the money!
Quite. Some countries have demerit points. Penalty point harmonisation is a long way off. I am also willing to bet the France was the main proponent of this as their cameras are regularlly set off by UK and German drivers and they need the money!
The proposed system of cross border fines under discussion this week is such that the RK would be responsible for the fine. A bit like parking fines.
agtlaw said:
Quite. Some countries have demerit points. Penalty point harmonisation is a long way off.
The proposed system of cross border fines under discussion this week is such that the RK would be responsible for the fine. A bit like parking fines.
I didn't realise the RK would be responsible. Not really on if you ask me but I suppose they have to try and make it at least vaguely workable.The proposed system of cross border fines under discussion this week is such that the RK would be responsible for the fine. A bit like parking fines.
I am also curious if there will be a cut off like in the UK for the issuing of the fine. I know Germany has around 6 months to inform you that you need to pay a fine.
We will have see how it affects the UK's and Denmark's postion with the information exchange. I think I will hold onto my UK licence for a little while longer
That 6 months would be a killer as well. So they send a fine to a RK, who is the new proud owner of a car that was caught 6 months earlier. If the previous owner also moved house, the DVLA would have no idea where to send the invoice to.
To work, the timescale has to be a few weeks, not months.
To work, the timescale has to be a few weeks, not months.
EU_Foreigner said:
That 6 months would be a killer as well. So they send a fine to a RK, who is the new proud owner of a car that was caught 6 months earlier. If the previous owner also moved house, the DVLA would have no idea where to send the invoice to.
But it still isn't going to land on the new RK.Six months is consistent with the UK timescale, is it not?
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