No action after rolling a car in to a field.
No action after rolling a car in to a field.
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DaveH23

Original Poster:

3,355 posts

201 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Watching police interceptors and a woman flags down a traffic cop in tears saying she has just seen a car fly off the road.

When he checks an 18 year old as came off the road in a 50 limit and the car rolled over a few times and landed back on its wheels albeit totally fked.

The police checked he didnt need any medical attention, then said good luck with the parents and left the scene. The narrator said no action will be taken.

How? You dont roll in to a field without some sort of serious speed/bald tyres.

Jonwm

2,747 posts

145 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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I was surprised, surely a medical check up would have been advised too, it was a fair old way into the field, thought the officer would have waited till the parents came.

Schmeeky

4,304 posts

248 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Just seen this- he was a very lucky lad.

As to why no further action being taken - maybe too difficult to prove exactly what happened, or effort/result ratio too big to justify it?

Either way, I'd say it was likely a combo of too fast for the conditions and lack of experience..

ETA Soz, I'm stating the bleedin' obvious there!

Batfink

1,032 posts

289 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Maybe because the officer can see that a lesson has been learned?

I've had a worse crash but not been charged.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

315 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Insurance will already be stuffed. Car written off, what else could they do? Self inflicted and walked away.

poing

8,743 posts

231 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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I rolled my car when I was younger, copper checked the road and diagnosed diesel on surface. Put a call out to the office who told local radio and arranged the council. He took me to his police station to wait for the recovery truck.

No action was taken, not sure what action he could have taken to be honest.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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I've rolled a car at 30mph, it's not hard to do if you hit just the right shape thing.

DanielSan

20,079 posts

198 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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No other parties involved, no one injured. Yes the police could try and look into things but why waste the time?

The Turbonator

2,792 posts

182 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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I suppose if they already think he's learnt his lesson, what would be the point of trying for a prosecution?

I crashed into a field in my yooth, going far too fast and didn't make the turn.

Police turned up, was genuinely very remorseful, checked my details, called the recovery truck and sent me on my way.

Learned a hell of a lot from that accident.



jaf01uk

1,943 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Would a "careful and competant" driver have ended up upside down in a field? I'm guessing not so the careless criteria has been met surely regardless of the mechanics, but as said, the insurance and everything else was going to hurt him badly enough...

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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I thought we wanted more traffic police so that they could apply discretion? As soon as one does that everyone seems to jump on him and demand he charges the driver.

The war on motorists is going strong in here.

Terminator X

20,912 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Civil matter hehe

TX.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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It looked like a non recordable RTC. No damage to property other than the drivers car, no injuries.
Is it in the public interest to prosecute?
Is it worth spending thousands of pounds to (possibly) put a young lad in front of a court where there was no adverse affect on anyone other than the lad?

Are bald tyres and excessive speed the only causes of accidents? Who is to say he didn't swerve to avoid a fox (that fox gets everywhere) or aquaplane, skid on black ice, get blown off course by a freak tornado?

As Loon said...it's called discretion. Something people are always crying out to be used, and it was. Rightly so IMO.

mph1977

12,467 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I thought we wanted more traffic police so that they could apply discretion? As soon as one does that everyone seems to jump on him and demand he charges the driver.

The war on motorists is going strong in here.
Loon i would have thought that would have realised what is meant be discretion by many of the posters demanding it
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i.e. ' the police should let me off becasue i'm a powerfully built be-goateed company director' but should charge anyone who doesn't share the same immature borderline sociopathic wannabe libertarian views of the PH vocal minority

poing

8,743 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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jaf01uk said:
Would a "careful and competant" driver have ended up upside down in a field?
I did, you're welcome to point out what it was I did that was wrong in my accident and how you would have avoided it.

ADM06

1,077 posts

203 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Sounds to me like a greater set of laws got him - the laws of physics.
I doubt he'll be doing it again.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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I was more concerned they let off that moron who wouldn't let them get a word in edgeways after they stopped him with no offside lighting.

That's so increbibly dangerous I almost had a head on when one of these twonks came the other way on an unlit country road.

Anyone taking to the road in that state should definitely get a due care if not dangerous charge.

This lad made a mistake and paid a price so they used discretion, exactly what we want.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

292 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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I can't see them using discretion if it was one of us hitting 70 in a 50 then slowing down for the bend and not crashing.

Also, suppose another member of the public had arrived on the scene complaining that the accident driver had overtaken him 5 miles previously, 'driving like a maniac', 'engine screaming', etc etc. Would this affect the police decision whether or not to prosecute?




LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
I can't see them using discretion if it was one of us hitting 70 in a 50 then slowing down for the bend and not crashing.

Also, suppose another member of the public had arrived on the scene complaining that the accident driver had overtaken him 5 miles previously, 'driving like a maniac', 'engine screaming', etc etc. Would this affect the police decision whether or not to prosecute?
I can't see them using discretion either, mainly because they wouldn't be there at all

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
I can't see them using discretion if it was one of us hitting 70 in a 50 then slowing down for the bend and not crashing.

Also, suppose another member of the public had arrived on the scene complaining that the accident driver had overtaken him 5 miles previously, 'driving like a maniac', 'engine screaming', etc etc. Would this affect the police decision whether or not to prosecute?
Very good points well made