Self Parking Cars
Discussion
Sorry if this has been raised before, but now these are getting more common does anyone know if they can be used for the parallel park in the driving test?
And should there be another category of driving licence that stops people with these cars driving ones that don't have that feature, like if you pass in an automatic you can't drive a manual?
Actually given that this is PH shouldn't we just give such people a railcard or a bus ticket?
Saying that I see plenty of people all the time who I assume have a driving licence but have no driving ability whatsoever so I suppose it's not a new thing really.
And should there be another category of driving licence that stops people with these cars driving ones that don't have that feature, like if you pass in an automatic you can't drive a manual?
Actually given that this is PH shouldn't we just give such people a railcard or a bus ticket?
Saying that I see plenty of people all the time who I assume have a driving licence but have no driving ability whatsoever so I suppose it's not a new thing really.
Mr Tidy said:
Sorry if this has been raised before, but now these are getting more common does anyone know if they can be used for the parallel park in the driving test?.......
Really?......C'mon now.............Take a wild guess! 
COMING UP NEXT WEEK:
With all this talk of self driving cars in the future:
SHOULD SELF DRIVING CARS HAVE TO PASS A DRIVING TEST BEFORE BEING ALLOWED ON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAY?
There is nothing specifically against them, and if you did not take your hands of the wheel I'm not sure the examiner is going to really necessarily know it self parked, but if you fully took your hands off the wheel they might say you failed to maintain control of the vehicle, in fact if you had not already discussed with them that you were going to use self park, they might feel they need intervene which is an instant fail.
There is certainly no specific licence restrictions, I don't really see what the big deal is, they are moving the focus away from the manovers anyway, being able to control a car to within a few inches at slow speed is not what is important, it is observation and control moving with a bit of speed that is. The automatic licence restrictions have seemed fairly pointless to me for a while. Every car has a sycromesh on every gear and the anti stalling of modern cars makes them almost impossible to stall unless something is faulty.
There is certainly no specific licence restrictions, I don't really see what the big deal is, they are moving the focus away from the manovers anyway, being able to control a car to within a few inches at slow speed is not what is important, it is observation and control moving with a bit of speed that is. The automatic licence restrictions have seemed fairly pointless to me for a while. Every car has a sycromesh on every gear and the anti stalling of modern cars makes them almost impossible to stall unless something is faulty.
leefee said:
In my experience you would need to be the s
ttest of st parkers for the car to be better than you at it... Im sures with time it will improve but for now..
I've only used it on a Hyundai on the fleet at work, and it parks absolutely perfectly. No one could possibly better it, because as I said, it's a perfect parallel park. ttest of st parkers for the car to be better than you at it... Im sures with time it will improve but for now.. Have to be switched off!
DT1 said:
If any vehicle fitted with a 'self-parking' feature is presented for test the test should
be conducted in the normal way, however, vehicles fitted with these electronic
devices must be capable of being switched off/de-activated when carrying out
manoeuvres. Candidates must complete their manoeuvres manually. Vehicles
with parking distance sensors are acceptable as this is merely a safety feature.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/371399/dvsa-dt1-standard-operating-procedure.pdfbe conducted in the normal way, however, vehicles fitted with these electronic
devices must be capable of being switched off/de-activated when carrying out
manoeuvres. Candidates must complete their manoeuvres manually. Vehicles
with parking distance sensors are acceptable as this is merely a safety feature.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I've only used it on a Hyundai on the fleet at work, and it parks absolutely perfectly. No one could possibly better it, because as I said, it's a perfect parallel park.
My brother in Law spent over 10 years living in London driving and parking an old Sherpa van all around the city.He's left London now and drives a big old FIAT Stilo estate, but he can park it in spaces that a self parking car would never even consider!
I kid you not, if he finds a space 1" longer than the car, he'll park in it, in one go and without touching either car front or rear, without batting an eyelid!
I've been in the car with him, assessed the space he's looking at and thought to Myself: "No chance! - Don't even try it!", meanwhile, he's stopped alongside the front car, selected reverse, gets the back end in, squares the front end up and we're done! (It amazes Me every time!)
I meant to say every modern car. I have a 2003 ford diesel been driving it for couple of months and I've never managed to stall it, it's a mondeo estate and even loaded with stuff you can can pull away purely simply bringing the clutch up slowly.
It is a different world driving a modern manual compared to something from the 70s
It is a different world driving a modern manual compared to something from the 70s
ging84 said:
I meant to say every modern car. I have a 2003 ford diesel been driving it for couple of months and I've never managed to stall it, it's a mondeo estate and even loaded with stuff you can can pull away purely simply bringing the clutch up slowly.
It is a different world driving a modern manual compared to something from the 70s
The Mondeo's one of the worst, so you must be a very good driver. How does the anti stalling system you've mentioned work on your Ford then?It is a different world driving a modern manual compared to something from the 70s
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I've only used it on a Hyundai on the fleet at work, and it parks absolutely perfectly. No one could possibly better it, because as I said, it's a perfect parallel park.
Wonder who would pay if this system caused the car to mash its alloys on the kerb? Or does it give them such a wide berth there's no chance of that happening?
4rephill said:
I've been in the car with him, assessed the space he's looking at and thought to Myself: "No chance! - Don't even try it!", meanwhile, he's stopped alongside the front car, selected reverse, gets the back end in, squares the front end up and we're done! (It amazes Me every time!)
I could teach you this in about 45 minutes.Unfortunately, unlike most of the other stuff I write, I've really struggled to write a nice descriptive piece on manoeuvring. I've made a few failed attempts, but nothing worthy of posting.
It's not as hard as you might think, but requires a slightly different mindset.
Maybe I'll have another go this week.
Sheepshanks said:
Wonder who would pay if this system caused the car to mash its alloys on the kerb? Or does it give them such a wide berth there's no chance of that happening?
Mine did this when I decided to demo the incredible self parking Mercedes to my old man. Couldn't believe it. Low kerbs can catch it out easily.4rephill said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I've only used it on a Hyundai on the fleet at work, and it parks absolutely perfectly. No one could possibly better it, because as I said, it's a perfect parallel park.
My brother in Law spent over 10 years living in London driving and parking an old Sherpa van all around the city.He's left London now and drives a big old FIAT Stilo estate, but he can park it in spaces that a self parking car would never even consider!
I kid you not, if he finds a space 1" longer than the car, he'll park in it, in one go and without touching either car front or rear, without batting an eyelid!
I've been in the car with him, assessed the space he's looking at and thought to Myself: "No chance! - Don't even try it!", meanwhile, he's stopped alongside the front car, selected reverse, gets the back end in, squares the front end up and we're done! (It amazes Me every time!)
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