Refusing To Name Someone Wanted By Police.
Discussion
Sounds a big deal but it's far from it.
My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a f
king rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.
Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "fking" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?
My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a f
king rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "f
king" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?In England it didn't happen like that...
For a start if they wanted to mess him up hed be bailed not nfa'd. In my experience it's rare to not charge or bail unless things are all tied up and finished.
If he's annoyed about it go and complain to the ipcc. They won't do anything but it looks bad in the statistics.
For a start if they wanted to mess him up hed be bailed not nfa'd. In my experience it's rare to not charge or bail unless things are all tied up and finished.
If he's annoyed about it go and complain to the ipcc. They won't do anything but it looks bad in the statistics.
Edited by photosnob on Thursday 19th February 18:35
Mk3Spitfire said:
....police not your mate....lawyer up....Feds....corrupt....tenuous link from 1675....out of order....catching burglers....say nothing.....lawyer up....complain....lawyer up.....
bks! Plod have always been like that with young neds, those suspected of being neds and young lads caught up in the periphery of neddish behaviour. Take it on the chin unless they pursue the matter further. I bet he wasn't under arrest but at the station voluntarily helping police with inquiries. That used to be how they pissed about with me when I was young. I'd get stopped and told I didn't have to go with them though it'd be in my interests if I did. At the station they'd put me in an unlocked interview room. I'd be there all night. Every now and again an officer would stick his head through the door to let me know the BiB dealing with me was busy but would get to me as soon as he was available. Then at the end of his shift they'd send me home.
Tannedbaldhead said:
bks! Plod have always been like that with young neds, those suspected of being neds and young lads caught up in the periphery of neddish behaviour. Take it on the chin unless they pursue the matter further.
I bet he wasn't under arrest but at the station voluntarily helping police with inquiries. That used to be how they pissed about with me when I was young. I'd get stopped and told I didn't have to go with them though it'd be in my interests if I did. At the station they'd put me in an unlocked interview room. I'd be there all night. Every now and again an officer would stick his head through the door to let me know the BiB dealing with me was busy but would get to me as soon as he was available. Then at the end of his shift they'd send me home.
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, unless it's a regional term...but what is a "ned"?ks! Plod have always been like that with young neds, those suspected of being neds and young lads caught up in the periphery of neddish behaviour. Take it on the chin unless they pursue the matter further. I bet he wasn't under arrest but at the station voluntarily helping police with inquiries. That used to be how they pissed about with me when I was young. I'd get stopped and told I didn't have to go with them though it'd be in my interests if I did. At the station they'd put me in an unlocked interview room. I'd be there all night. Every now and again an officer would stick his head through the door to let me know the BiB dealing with me was busy but would get to me as soon as he was available. Then at the end of his shift they'd send me home.
Mk3Spitfire said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
bks! Plod have always been like that with young neds, those suspected of being neds and young lads caught up in the periphery of neddish behaviour. Take it on the chin unless they pursue the matter further.
I bet he wasn't under arrest but at the station voluntarily helping police with inquiries. That used to be how they pissed about with me when I was young. I'd get stopped and told I didn't have to go with them though it'd be in my interests if I did. At the station they'd put me in an unlocked interview room. I'd be there all night. Every now and again an officer would stick his head through the door to let me know the BiB dealing with me was busy but would get to me as soon as he was available. Then at the end of his shift they'd send me home.
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, unless it's a regional term...but what is a "ned"?ks! Plod have always been like that with young neds, those suspected of being neds and young lads caught up in the periphery of neddish behaviour. Take it on the chin unless they pursue the matter further. I bet he wasn't under arrest but at the station voluntarily helping police with inquiries. That used to be how they pissed about with me when I was young. I'd get stopped and told I didn't have to go with them though it'd be in my interests if I did. At the station they'd put me in an unlocked interview room. I'd be there all night. Every now and again an officer would stick his head through the door to let me know the BiB dealing with me was busy but would get to me as soon as he was available. Then at the end of his shift they'd send me home.
I hope for his sake he wasnt arrested.
I'd imagine a 'rocket scientist' would need to visit the US quite a lot and an arrest would make it a little bit inconvenient.
Employers who require an enhanced DBS can also draw up all types of inferences from an arrest.
If it is as you describe and he was arrested, then there was absolutely no justification for his arrest and he should fight it.
Sadly the IPCC wont be able to do much for him. Persistence might get him a result after a while (took me 9 years), Lawyers will get it done much quicker (my mate's solicitors are currently negotiation a settlement).
I'd imagine a 'rocket scientist' would need to visit the US quite a lot and an arrest would make it a little bit inconvenient.
Employers who require an enhanced DBS can also draw up all types of inferences from an arrest.
If it is as you describe and he was arrested, then there was absolutely no justification for his arrest and he should fight it.
Sadly the IPCC wont be able to do much for him. Persistence might get him a result after a while (took me 9 years), Lawyers will get it done much quicker (my mate's solicitors are currently negotiation a settlement).
Tannedbaldhead said:
Sounds a big deal but it's far from it.
My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a fking rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.
Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "fking" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?
I can only think there must have been more to it? Maybe the cops on the platform heard something different? Maybe the shouter had been involved in another incident where other words were used? Considering the recent Chelsea fan train clip, maybe it was something similar? My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a f
king rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "f
king" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?As you say, for the sake of one expletive, I can't imagine them going to all that trouble to identify him.
Mk3Spitfire said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Sounds a big deal but it's far from it.
My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a fking rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.
Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "fking" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?
I can only think there must have been more to it? Maybe the cops on the platform heard something different? Maybe the shouter had been involved in another incident where other words were used? Considering the recent Chelsea fan train clip, maybe it was something similar? My cousin's son is a smart lad. He's a first class honours graduate in Aeronautical Engineering and currently doing his masters specialising in rocket propulsion systems. He has been security cleared and has been offered a position with ........ (not at liberty to disclose)
Last week he was on his way home from uni when he found himself in a train carriage full of football supporters in Chelsea fan mode. A fellow passenger complained about the fans' behaviour and at a station on route the train was boarded by the police and all the young males on board were hauled off, the innocent as well as the guilty.
As my cousin was interviewed on the platform by an officer and giving his details a fellow student on another carriage shouted out the window "That's it Chris, tell them you're a f
king rocket scientist!!!" as the train pulled off.Cops asked my relation who was that who shouted to which he dutifully replied (even good students from good families know you never grass)"haven't a clue".
Guess who, out of all the neds and hooligans present, was the only individual to end up back at the station.
He was questioned and left alone in the interview room for periods time then re-questioned a number of times (and questioned with a degree of menace) by officers very keen to know who had shouted from the train. He was threatened with a whole load of charges along the lines of obstructing an investigation and perverting the course of justice. He stood by his initial line that he didn't know who had shouted and was eventually released without charge. BiBs have told him, however, that the matter is far from over.
Are the cops just messing with him because he wouldn't give up his mate (I know they really don't take to defiance) or could he be hauled in again for further harassment?
Is one "f
king" shouted out loud really worth that level of police effort?As you say, for the sake of one expletive, I can't imagine them going to all that trouble to identify him.
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