Scamera vans and bikes
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CGJJ

Original Poster:

860 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Do Scamera Vans parked on overhead motorway bridges nick bikes
for speeding without a front facing number plate?

tapereel

1,860 posts

147 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Yes because the bike has a number plate on the rear.

CGJJ

Original Poster:

860 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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They are parked up on bridges that are two lane pointing into oncoming traffic.
It doesn't appear to me they are able to do a 180 degree pan to suddenly catch from vehicles
from the rear.
Have you ever seen a camera van on a motorway bridge?

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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CGJJ said:
They are parked up on bridges that are two lane pointing into oncoming traffic.
It doesn't appear to me they are able to do a 180 degree pan to suddenly catch from vehicles
from the rear.
Have you ever seen a camera van on a motorway bridge?
Not speaking for your force, but up in Edinburgh, they have CCTV fitted to the side / back of the vans so this can be proved.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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I think they have cameras pointing out of each side non? Or maybe that's me with the fear.

richarda0109

313 posts

196 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Motorway bridges are usually 2 lanes with a footpath on either side. The vans usually park half on half off the footpaths. By positioning the van like so, its impossible to swing the camera round and catch the motorbike after it has gone underneath the bridge. In addition what is stopping the motorbike from slowing down underneath the bridge so that its speed is within the limit when it appears the otherside.

Most of these vans are setup so that once they park up they fix the camera in one direction only. The camera and speed guns are not small and take up quiet amount of space in the vans. Otherwise we would have "Hans Solo in the turret of the Millenium Falcon" type speed camera operators.

Rgds
Richard

covboy

2,593 posts

205 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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What's to stop them checking speeds of vehicles going away from them ?

(apart from the fat they are supposed to Have an idea they are speeding in the first place !)

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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richarda0109 said:
Motorway bridges are usually 2 lanes with a footpath on either side. The vans usually park half on half off the footpaths.
Is this not illegal, what if you had a double buggy and wanted to pass.

speedking31

3,958 posts

167 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Shirley they record the speed and video on approach and then only need to read the numberplate for identification purposes after the bike has passed?

DickP

1,179 posts

181 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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speedking31 said:
Shirley they record the speed and video on approach and then only need to read the numberplate for identification purposes after the bike has passed?
But could you then not say there was another bike which happened to be the same model and colour, with similar or same rider kit?

tapereel

1,860 posts

147 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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CGJJ said:
They are parked up on bridges that are two lane pointing into oncoming traffic.
It doesn't appear to me they are able to do a 180 degree pan to suddenly catch from vehicles
from the rear.
Have you ever seen a camera van on a motorway bridge?
I assumed that when you asked the question that you perhaps had done so because you didn't know how they could determine the ID of a 2-wheeled vehicle and of course because you had no or little knowledge of the equipment.
The equipment I have operated and instructed has the ability to either swing aound and photograph a vehicle from the rear when it needed to. In addition to that there are secondary cameras that can be used to make images of receding vehicles to capture ID shots.
Of course if you are more knowledgeable than I am about these devices you can dismiss my answeres to your question and go with your own preconceived idea that ID is not possible for motorcycles aproaching speed enforcement vehicles...good luck with that if you want to ride at speed while you approach such a vehicle.
If you want to ask any more questions you already know the answer to just add "By the way, I already know the answer to this. Ner-Ner-N-Ner-Ner"
Meanwhile it is clear you don't know the answer to the question you have asked herein. Perhaps you would be wise to accept the advice you have asked for in this case.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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tapereel said:
CGJJ said:
They are parked up on bridges that are two lane pointing into oncoming traffic.
It doesn't appear to me they are able to do a 180 degree pan to suddenly catch from vehicles
from the rear.
Have you ever seen a camera van on a motorway bridge?
I assumed that when you asked the question that you perhaps had done so because you didn't know how they could determine the ID of a 2-wheeled vehicle and of course because you had no or little knowledge of the equipment.
The equipment I have operated and instructed has the ability to either swing aound and photograph a vehicle from the rear when it needed to. In addition to that there are secondary cameras that can be used to make images of receding vehicles to capture ID shots.
Of course if you are more knowledgeable than I am about these devices you can dismiss my answeres to your question and go with your own preconceived idea that ID is not possible for motorcycles aproaching speed enforcement vehicles...good luck with that if you want to ride at speed while you approach such a vehicle.
If you want to ask any more questions you already know the answer to just add "By the way, I already know the answer to this. Ner-Ner-N-Ner-Ner"
Meanwhile it is clear you don't know the answer to the question you have asked herein. Perhaps you would be wise to accept the advice you have asked for in this case.
Fantastic.

CGJJ

Original Poster:

860 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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I am pleased my reply to your first post on this thread resulted in you
answering the question properly.
Thank you for your time :-)

SVTRick

3,633 posts

226 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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speedking31 said:
Shirley they record the speed and video on approach and then only need to read the numberplate for identification purposes after the bike has passed?
Who's Shirley ?

outnumbered

4,884 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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tapereel said:
The equipment I have operated and instructed has the ability to either swing aound and photograph a vehicle from the rear when it needed to. In addition to that there are secondary cameras that can be used to make images of receding vehicles to capture ID shots.
No doubt that's true, but I wonder whether it's often set up like that in the vans on motorway bridges. I would guess not.



tapereel

1,860 posts

147 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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outnumbered said:
tapereel said:
The equipment I have operated and instructed has the ability to either swing aound and photograph a vehicle from the rear when it needed to. In addition to that there are secondary cameras that can be used to make images of receding vehicles to capture ID shots.
No doubt that's true, but I wonder whether it's often set up like that in the vans on motorway bridges. I would guess not.
OK
Perhaps I just made it all up and didn't realise it.
Thanks