Managing SORN when buying a second car
Discussion
I'm in the process of shopping for a new (practical) car. When I complete the purchase, my intention is to drive the car to my family home where there is off street parking, SORN it and leave it there until such time as the incumbent vehicle is sold. So, I will normally only have 1 car but there will be a period of overlap during the transition. I don't know how long it will take to sell the incumbent as it has 144,000 miles on it; it's worth more as a private sale than as PX and also worth more than the new vehicle. I don't really want to be paying an extra slab of VED at £290 a year for a car I'm not using, hence SORN.
I gather I can send a V890 to declare the vehicle SORN as soon as I have the new keeper supplement, but as far as I can tell the car will not be taxed for the 100 mile drive back home. The DVLA tell me driving the car like this is a no-no, and I absolutely must tax the car as soon as I buy it, and then send in the SORN when I get home - by post, as I obviously won't have the new V5C. I will then get a refund, but likely only for 5 or 11 months. They say if I send a covering letter explaining the circumstances, I may get the full amount back but there's no formal policy so they won't guarantee it.
My question: The DVLA are not telepathic and the records are only updated when the DVLA receive the old V5C. This will be at best 24 hours after the sale, assuming the former keeper mails it 1st class immediately. So the DVLA will not know and the existing tax will remain, at least for sufficiently long for me to get the car home and off the road, and send in the V890.
Assuming the car is taxed when I pick it up, what have I missed? The only thing that can go wrong as far as I can see is a random stop or accident during the journey.
I gather I can send a V890 to declare the vehicle SORN as soon as I have the new keeper supplement, but as far as I can tell the car will not be taxed for the 100 mile drive back home. The DVLA tell me driving the car like this is a no-no, and I absolutely must tax the car as soon as I buy it, and then send in the SORN when I get home - by post, as I obviously won't have the new V5C. I will then get a refund, but likely only for 5 or 11 months. They say if I send a covering letter explaining the circumstances, I may get the full amount back but there's no formal policy so they won't guarantee it.
My question: The DVLA are not telepathic and the records are only updated when the DVLA receive the old V5C. This will be at best 24 hours after the sale, assuming the former keeper mails it 1st class immediately. So the DVLA will not know and the existing tax will remain, at least for sufficiently long for me to get the car home and off the road, and send in the V890.
Assuming the car is taxed when I pick it up, what have I missed? The only thing that can go wrong as far as I can see is a random stop or accident during the journey.
The legislation clearly states that the tax is only refunded when DVLA are notified of the change of keeper. It's the change of keeper that triggers things, not just the change of owner.
DVLA's website contains a lot of declarations of what they'd like you to do, not what you actually have to do.
DVLA's website contains a lot of declarations of what they'd like you to do, not what you actually have to do.
goneape said:
Well let's assume that owner=keeper for the purposes of the discussion; what constitutes notifying the DVLA - filling in the form, posting it, or them opening it and processing it 24 hrs later?
It looks to me like the car is taxed until they receive the V5, so no problem.
I tend to agree with your position - but someone'll be along to tell us we're completely wrong in a minute or two.It looks to me like the car is taxed until they receive the V5, so no problem.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/26/schedu...
As long as the seller has taxed the car HIS tax will remain valid until DVLA receive the V5 informing them of change of keeper.So driving it straight home on the day of sale it will show up on NPR as taxed.It must be insured of course.
Then sworn it immediately using the ref` number on the green slip the seller gives you.
You will eventually get a V5 in your name and will be able to tax it when ever you want.
Then sworn it immediately using the ref` number on the green slip the seller gives you.
You will eventually get a V5 in your name and will be able to tax it when ever you want.
As above. The only fly in the ointment is if the new car is on sorn already. You have to watch out as then you would have to pay or you could be stopped. Recently I did buy a sorned car and drove it about 5 miles (no signal on phone) and in a MacDonalds car park across the road from a police station (!) taxed it on line. At no point in the the process were any of the police cars remotely interested in me but if you have far to go, would you risk it?
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