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Big_M

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5,602 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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FFS - people astound me at times. This letter was in our local rag this week.

Mrs J J Braintree said:
I would like through your columns to record my anger at the actions taken by Essex Police on Saturday night, when I was driving with my husband from Sudbury to Halstead at 11pm. I was pulled over and criticised for allegedly driving too slowly and possibly causing 'road rage'.

The roads were narrow and winding, it was pitch black and I kept to a steady 40 mph. I had a police car follow me for 20 minutes, which was very intimidating and to top it all, I am heavily pregnant with our first child so didn't feel like driving like a 'boy racer'.

Surely the police should be catching real criminals, not persecuting law abiding motorists.


Got half a mind to pen a reply. If someone was following me for 20 minutes I think I would have pulled over and let them pass.

Plus 40 mph on an NSL A road - good on that Copper I say.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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In addition...a bit of a sniff and see test...

ie; &

But another example of why the public sometimes deserve to be road policed by cameras only...

Bluementhol

111 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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She said
Mrs J J Braintree said:
...... and I kept to a steady 40 mph......


She meant
Mrs J J Braintree said:
...... and I never got over 40mph. Slowing for the corners doing 20mph......



At 11pm driving like that! I bet the copper thought she was a drunk.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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Fire off a reply.

Keep it to about 200 words.

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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Why on earth was this woman driving when she was heavily pregnant? What the hell is wrong with her husband?
Have any of you ever seen what a seat belt does to a pregnant woman in an accident?

DJFish

6,017 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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IOLAIRE said:
Why on earth was this woman driving when she was heavily pregnant? What the hell is wrong with her husband?


Too right, she should be kept behind closed doors and out of public view until the shame and embarrasment has blown over, and the baby's been born and shipped off to a state run boarding school in Northumbria.
Imagine having a baby, whilst you're married......IN ESSEX! The shame

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th January 2005
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IOLAIRE said:
Why on earth was this woman driving when she was heavily pregnant? What the hell is wrong with her husband?



Probably pissed up

IOLAIRE said:

Have any of you ever seen what a seat belt does to a pregnant woman in an accident?


Yes. A couple of times. It saved both their lives and their unborns too!

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BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Big_M said:
FFS - people astound me at times. This letter was in our local rag this week.


Mrs J J Braintree said:
I would like through your columns to record my anger at the actions taken by Essex Police on Saturday night, when I was driving with my husband from Sudbury to Halstead at 11pm. I was pulled over and criticised for allegedly driving too slowly and possibly causing 'road rage'.

The roads were narrow and winding, it was pitch black and I kept to a steady 40 mph. I had a police car follow me for 20 minutes, which was very intimidating and to top it all, I am heavily pregnant with our first child so didn't feel like driving like a 'boy racer'.

Surely the police should be catching real criminals, not persecuting law abiding motorists.



Got half a mind to pen a reply. If someone was following me for 20 minutes I think I would have pulled over and let them pass.

Plus 40 mph on an NSL A road - good on that Copper I say.


Whoops, I hope it wasn't our Dibble on a PH inspired numpty education extravaganza

I think the acted in the interests of the great majority of the population. Well done that man

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Yes it is worthy of a reply. In support of Trafpol's actions.

BUT.

If she wants to drive at 40mph I don't see the problem, provided she was considerate about it. i.e. made it straightforward for others to get past by pulling over if necessary just as tractor drivers do...(when being polite..)

Clearly she wasn't being considerate otherwise Trafpol wouldn't have been following for so long!

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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If the road was narrow and twisty, did she really maintain 40 mph for the whole time?

Was it really not possible for the police car to overtake?

I'm not really sure which side to come down on here, but I think the important considerations are:

a) Don't travel at an excessive speed.
b) If you appear to be delaying other traffic, then make some arrangement to help them to get past.

So long as those conditions are met, I don't see that one should feel obliged to achieve any particular rate of progress.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

DeltaFox

3,839 posts

261 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Send one off telling her to drive at a more appropriate speed next time.

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

266 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I think we should have a thread on here for cretinous letters from the local. I know there are at least 1 or 2 howlers in our local rag every week, talking about "brainless moron speeders" and suchlike.

To get back to the topic though, definately write a concise reply explaining why such a speed is inappropriate and most importantly, why they have been "pulled" and how it benefits road safety.

Mr E

23,059 posts

288 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Yup, pretty sure Mr Plods thinking went along the lines of;

Pub kicking out time.
Car driving very slowly.
Potential DD.

Pulled them. Got out, saw pregnant lady, decided probably not DD. Gave her a friendly "speed up luv" bit of advice.

maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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ok, might get flamed here, but what is the real problem with her doing 40mph in a NSL? It was dark, she might not have known the roads and she was being followed (+ she was pregnant)? The speed limit is exactly that - a limit (officially ), not a target or minimum speed. Id sooner she was doing 40mph and was comfortable rather than being pushed to do 60mph - especially if she was coming the other way to me.

Its a pain when someone is doodling along on a decent road (I drive an elise and love nothing more than a spirited blat on NSL roads where conditions allow), but with a little consideration on their part and some observation on yours an overtake is usually possible.

I do, however, think their is probably more to this story than has been printed - she might have been weaving or drifting etc.

cliffe_mafia

1,734 posts

267 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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wolves_wanderer said:
I think we should have a thread on here for cretinous letters from the local. I know there are at least 1 or 2 howlers in our local rag every week, talking about "brainless moron speeders" and suchlike.


There already is one....

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=150380

I do think it should be renamed to your suggestion though - cretinous letters from the local rag

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I would imagine uesd his judgement and decided she was travelling too slowly for the conditions based oh his assesment of what a competent driver would do.

Drive below the limit by all means, but make it easy for following motorists to pass. If you have a queue behind you, I would say it's only corteous to pull over to allow them past.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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In Canada they have a rule.

If you are causing a queue of 4 cars or more you HAVE to pull over to allow them to pass.

Not doing so is a fairly serious offence.

Its high time we had such a law in the UK.

havoc

33,384 posts

264 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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BliarOut said:
I would imagine uesd his judgement and decided she was travelling too slowly for the conditions based oh his assesment of what a competent driver would do.

Drive below the limit by all means, but make it easy for following motorists to pass. If you have a queue behind you, I would say it's only corteous to pull over to allow them past.



Plotloss - interesting idea, but like most of the current highway code, unenforceable without trafpol - can't see a camera coping with that one.

bph

2,166 posts

284 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I totally agree with the Trafpol 110%.

Ok, you don't have to do 60 in a 60, but it takes little to show some consideration for others. If the Trafpol has made her aware of this, then brilliant.

Maybe it wasn't safe to overtake, but safe to do over 40 for a more confident driver (understandably, she may have been reluctant to drive quickly due to her condition???).

So many times (on the way to work especially) do we get stuck behind a totally ignorant (or arrogant) Self-righteously w*nker sitting in the fast lane doing 65 - 70, with a seemingly endless queue of cars behind them - These people need educating that they can pull in between overtaking and let others pass and to use their mirrors.

These people are a massive contribution to congestion, encourage undertaking which in turn contributes to accidents relating to road rage and impatience.

kevinday

13,833 posts

309 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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bph said:
Ok, you don't have to do 60 in a 60, but it takes little to show some consideration for others. If the Trafpol has made her aware of this, then brilliant.


Obviously not, or she would not have complained to the paper! Numpties......