Police having to drive faster to catch up.
Police having to drive faster to catch up.
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_Deano

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7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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This morning i was stopped by the police, apparently i was riding a lot quicker than the speed limit for the road. Although this was said from an officer that was travelling in the opposite direction, with no proof of my speed.

I'm not too fussed about being pulled over, the police were doing their job and acting upon suspicion. But what irks me is the line "i had to drive over the speed limit to catch up with you, at one point i was doing 62MPH. Of course i had to turn around, but you've travelled some distance".

Why is this mentioned?
Of course he did, otherwise how would he catch up?

The fact that i was on a bike would also mean that i wouldn't have been caught up in the traffic, whilst he would have had to force his way through the general flow. But why tell me that he had to travel in excess of the speed limit?

HantsRat

2,410 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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He told you that to help highlight the fact you were speeding? It sounds like you were let off with just a chat so why the moan?

Durzel

12,999 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Because in the absence of actual evidence (and the basis of a prosecution) he felt like he had to justify to you (maybe himself) why he pulled you over. In other words - "you're going to get a talking to even though in practical terms I don't have any real evidence other than seeing you and feeling like you were probably speeding".

edit: The above sounds anti-Police, to be honest if you were speeding then you just got a telling off so no harm no foul.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

249 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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HantsRat said:
He told you that to help highlight the fact you were speeding?
But that's just physics isn't it?

If the police car was travelling in the opposite direction it would necessarily have to travel faster than the limit to catch up with a vehicle doing the limit - to make up for the time/distance lost by passing, stopping, turning round etc.

If the bike was travelling at the speed limit and the police car turned around and also travelled at the speed limit - the police car would never catch the bike.

_Deano

Original Poster:

7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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As mentioned i'm not moaning that i was pulled over, it was the line of having to travel faster than the speed limit to catch up, which is what i find odd.

But a quick chat and back on the way, no more than a couple of mins.

HantsRat

2,410 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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It's just a figure of speech really. I wouldn't read into it that much. They're not really going to go into physics, distance and time for just a chat.

It's just a quick way of saying 'The speed they had to travel to speak to you indicated you were driving in excess of the speed limit.'

0000

13,966 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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If all police officers had to possess a passing familiarity with basic physics our taxes would be higher. Be thankful!

tapereel

1,860 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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The officer would have had to make up ground and very possibly do 62 to catch up. He may also have referred to that speed because while he was making ground he also paced you at that speed.

If he thought he had insufficient evidence for a prosecution he will use discretion and bk you. If you really gave him some stick at the time he may have decided he did have enough evidence to convict. He probably did.

If you were speeding just accept it ... You know it's right.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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0000 said:
If all police officers had to possess a passing familiarity with basic physics our taxes would be higher. Be thankful!
s=d/t is primary school stuff.

Marc p

1,124 posts

172 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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I had this once, doing 40 in a 40 zone, police pulled me and stated that they had to do 50 to catch up with me, I tried explaing some basic laws of Physics........this didn't go down well.

_Deano

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7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Marc p said:
I had this once, doing 40 in a 40 zone, police pulled me and stated that they had to do 50 to catch up with me, I tried explaing some basic laws of Physics........this didn't go down well.
oops. So keeping quiet and just giving the exact answer seems to be the key to dealing with the police.

V8forweekends

2,501 posts

154 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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_Deano said:
This morning i was stopped by the police, apparently i was riding a lot quicker than the speed limit for the road.
Were you?

andrewrob

2,913 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Marc p said:
I had this once, doing 40 in a 40 zone, police pulled me and stated that they had to do 50 to catch up with me, I tried explaing some basic laws of Physics........this didn't go down well.
I've seen this before on a police camera action type thing.
Completely bizarre thing to mention. If a bike cop was going the other way in a NSL and you were both doing 60 for example, he's got to slow down, turn around and could do 150mph to catch you, is the 150 relevant, nope.

pork911

7,365 posts

213 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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andrewrob said:
I've seen this before on a police camera action type thing.
Completely bizarre thing to mention. If a bike cop was going the other way in a NSL and you were both doing 60 for example, he's got to slow down, turn around and could do 150mph to catch you, is the 150 relevant, nope.
of course irrelevant in determining your speed but (although not here mentioned as such) it is entirely relevant to the police officer then having to speed, so causing an increased risk to him and others (how much of a risk is a matter of debate)

supertouring

2,228 posts

263 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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I suspect most people he meets accept that because he had to do xxmph to catch them up then that was the speed they must have been doing.

Most would then accept a ticket if one was offered.

Sheepshanks

41,261 posts

149 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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_Deano said:
Although this was said from an officer that was travelling in the opposite direction, with no proof of my speed.
Lucky there wasn't two of them - they don't need proof then.

pork911

7,365 posts

213 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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supertouring said:
I suspect most people he meets accept that because he had to do xxmph to catch them up then that was the speed they must have been doing.

Most would then accept a ticket if one was offered.
most probably know they were speeding wink


PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Most bikes I see are either speeding or doing somthing silly - their all giving you a bad name.

Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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PAULJ5555 said:
Most bikes I see are either speeding or doing somthing silly - their all giving you a bad name.
What about the ones you don't see? wink

Most of the bikes I see around here are going really slow, that's why I overtake them.

R8VXF

6,794 posts

145 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Have had this a number of times from the police. Think it is their standard line if they don't have any clear evidence of your actual speed.