UK Law covering 6th forms
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Fetchez la vache

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5,910 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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My local council is attempting to push through reforms that will close the counties school based 6th forms, and push everyone to the existing college, which currently caters for A-Levels.

Though this to me seems unethical, is it in fact legal?
I'm unsure as to where to look - if anyone can give me some pointers..

Thanks smile

Jarcy

1,559 posts

305 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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I can't help you with your specific query, but I have also mused that since the law changed so now requiring kids to move onto further education (excepting apprenticeships), parents are legally bound to pay the transport cost of getting your kids to the sixth form of choice in the next town.
In my case the annual bus fare is over £600. My kid goes to the same sixth form that I went to as a kid, but in my case a coach was laid on daily for free, as there was no sixth form option in our home town.
I'm not bleating, but this must cause great difficulty for some.

My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...

akirk

5,778 posts

144 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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not sure what is wrong with that (from a legal perspective)
I don't think that the legislation requiring children to remain in education until 18 requires a Local Authority to deliver it in a particular format...

also don't see how they will remove all sixth forms as so many schools now have their own control - academies / free schools / independent / etc.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Fetchez la vache said:
Though this to me seems unethical, is it in fact legal?
Why wouldn't it be?
In fact, why is it "unethical"? Unless you're suggesting there's somehow an inherent inferiority to taking A-levels at college rather than school...

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

155 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Jarcy said:
My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...
Can't fault his logic. hehe

Fetchez la vache

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Wednesday 6th May 2015
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akirk said:
not sure what is wrong with that (from a legal perspective)
I don't think that the legislation requiring children to remain in education until 18 requires a Local Authority to deliver it in a particular format...

also don't see how they will remove all sixth forms as so many schools now have their own control - academies / free schools / independent / etc.
The county does have one fee paying / outside of council funding school, and it looks like the options are basically go to 6th form college or pay up to go there (or elsewhere outside the county, of course).

The whole process / consultation has been a sham / farce but I don't want to go into that... There has been so much smoke and mirrors / deviousness about the consultation process I just wondered about the legal standpoint.

Fetchez la vache

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Wednesday 6th May 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Jarcy said:
My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...
Can't fault his logic. hehe
He sounds like he'll go far smile

akirk

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Wednesday 6th May 2015
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justanother5tar said:
Jarcy said:
My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...
Can't fault his logic. hehe
A more compelling argument would have been £595 contribution - i.e. you save money while doing the deal - you need to negotiate - at £600 there is no difference for you, so no reason to choose on or the other based on the money smile

Jarcy

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305 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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akirk said:
justanother5tar said:
Jarcy said:
My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...
Can't fault his logic. hehe
A more compelling argument would have been £595 contribution - i.e. you save money while doing the deal - you need to negotiate - at £600 there is no difference for you, so no reason to choose on or the other based on the money smile
But how many times will he say "Dad, can I have a £fiver for fuel, as I can't get to college?" rolleyes

jesta1865

3,453 posts

239 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Jarcy said:
akirk said:
justanother5tar said:
Jarcy said:
My kid's also obviously learnt man-maths in his first year of 6th form, as he argues that I should contribute £600 towards him buying his first car, so he doesn't need the bus next year. I take his point...
Can't fault his logic. hehe
A more compelling argument would have been £595 contribution - i.e. you save money while doing the deal - you need to negotiate - at £600 there is no difference for you, so no reason to choose on or the other based on the money smile
But how many times will he say "Dad, can I have a £fiver for fuel, as I can't get to college?" rolleyes
would have to be a more significant saving to make me move from the bus, what happens when he needs / smashes a tyre, plugs or leads go, timing belt goes etc. keep him on the bus smile

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

141 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Wait for
I've missed the bus can you drive me/can I borrow your car conversation

boyse7en

8,208 posts

195 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Buy him a £400 pushbike instead. Then he can't run out of petrol and scab £5 off of you for fuel

Gavin0478

480 posts

171 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Why dont they start a cycle to education scheme like the bike to work scheme where you can claw something back from the tax man.

Or if its too far to cycle a moped to education scheme.

sim72

4,998 posts

164 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Which county is it? I'd be astonished if there was only one secondary in an entire county that is outside LA control (unless it's a very small county).

Edit: OK scrap that, I'm guessing from your profile you're in Wales - different system completely from England.

Edited by sim72 on Wednesday 6th May 21:28

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Thursday 7th May 2015
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definitely illegal
that well known crime of running a school without a 6th form