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Having (touch wood) never been stopped by the police for offences, I often hear about this 'attitude test'. Is it something official or is it a mythical thing made up by people that havent really been bad enough to warrant a full conviction? Im not trying to kick the wasp nest im just curious
vinnie01 said:
Having (touch wood) never been stopped by the police for offences, I often hear about this 'attitude test'. Is it something official or is it a mythical thing made up by people that havent really been bad enough to warrant a full conviction? Im not trying to kick the wasp nest im just curious
It's neither mythical nor official It is just how people describe the way police decide whether to use discretion and when not to based on people's actions and attitudes after being stopped.
What do you think?
If say the police pulled you over with the intention of using discretion to advise politely on something such as an incorrect number and the driver gets out the car f'ing and blinding with the usual tripe "Why arn't you out catching murderers" - Discretion will go out the window and they will be getting a ticket.
If say the police pulled you over with the intention of using discretion to advise politely on something such as an incorrect number and the driver gets out the car f'ing and blinding with the usual tripe "Why arn't you out catching murderers" - Discretion will go out the window and they will be getting a ticket.
ging84 said:
It's neither mythical nor official
It is just how people describe the way police decide whether to use discretion and when not to based on people's actions and attitudes after being stopped.
Indeed.It is just how people describe the way police decide whether to use discretion and when not to based on people's actions and attitudes after being stopped.
The police are just the same as anyone else at work. They treat the customer depending on how the customer treats them.
If people are rude or a 'smart arse' to me in my job then they go to the bottom of the pile or get charged the full amount where others may get given a discount.
The Police will no doubt operate the same way.
If it's minor motoring offences your attitude will have a big influence on the outcome .Unless the plod are having a crack down on certain things and the order of the day is nick every offender,then you are screwed.
Remorse and a civil demeanor will go a long way unless you are a repeat bad boy .
As in all of life your attitude to others will reflect in their manner towards you .
I always try to remember that they tend to deal on a daily basis with much more dangerous or serious situations than you can imagine .
Remorse and a civil demeanor will go a long way unless you are a repeat bad boy .
As in all of life your attitude to others will reflect in their manner towards you .
I always try to remember that they tend to deal on a daily basis with much more dangerous or serious situations than you can imagine .
If a copper is pulling you over for a quick word about your driving, and you appear to be taking in the advice then you may avoid a ticket. If you are argumentative and mouthy then it may escalate to a ticket.
Its nothing more than that really.
I was pulled a few times in my younger days, and the advice given has stuck with me. Far better then a ticket, and easier all round.
Its nothing more than that really.
I was pulled a few times in my younger days, and the advice given has stuck with me. Far better then a ticket, and easier all round.
Disastrous said:
It's a ridiculous bit of smug terminology used by the same people whimsy things lime 'leptons' and 'Mk1 Eyeball'.
I have to say that the regular use of 'Leptons' is one of the most ridiculous things about Pistonheads.The rest of the Internet is happy to publicly state they 'Did 150mph on the M6 last night' and not give it a second thought, whereas the people who say Leptons always come across as bizarrely paranoid sorts.
I mean if it was funny in some way then I could see the point, but it isn't even remotely humorous.
bobtail4x4 said:
on sunday, I was doing an indicated 38 ish in a 30 limit (recently changed from 40) Bib with camera, must have had me, when I jumped on the brakes to an indicated 32 (real 30) I got a nod and a wagged finger,
I suppose I was paying attention.
I got a scowl from a laser wielding copper when I went past him at 28 in a 30. Perhaps he was having trouble reaching his quota.I suppose I was paying attention.
It just means that regardless if you are at fault or not if you are dealing with a copper you must remain polite & proper regardless of their behavior.
It is particularly important to remember this when you are dealing with a copper who may have a huge chip on his shoulder, a general dislike to anyone under the age of 30, a dislike for anyone with a modified car or a strong belief that the DVLA/police/insurance companies never make mistakes otherwise you can quickly talk yourself into a right mess.
It is particularly important to remember this when you are dealing with a copper who may have a huge chip on his shoulder, a general dislike to anyone under the age of 30, a dislike for anyone with a modified car or a strong belief that the DVLA/police/insurance companies never make mistakes otherwise you can quickly talk yourself into a right mess.
PorkInsider said:
aka_kerrly said:
It just means that regardless if you are at fault or not if you are dealing with a copper you must remain polite & proper regardless of their behavior.
This.Likewise, I'm not going to kowtow to someone who's trying to book me for something I haven't done.
To most officers, myself included, we're looking for a reason to use discretion on minor traffic matters. It's not about being, "yes sir, no sir". I hate that.
The outcome we're aiming for is to improve road safety. If stopping someone for not wearing a seat belt comes out with, "haven't you got anything better to do?", then is discretion likely to achieve that outcome?
The outcome we're aiming for is to improve road safety. If stopping someone for not wearing a seat belt comes out with, "haven't you got anything better to do?", then is discretion likely to achieve that outcome?
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