got a fpn

[simon1987]

for £50

reading the badly printed almost illegible print out i was given it says i must pay or request a court hearing within 28 days.

if I fail do to either the police MAY apply for the penalty + 50% in court for enforcement as if it were a fine following a conviction.

I tried to pay it in cash when it was issues and go nothing but an arsey response.


If I request a court hearing what happens? I assume they will have to provide some evidence of the offense being committed? Whats the chances of dash cam footage still being available for a routine traffic stop some 28 days + however long it takes to get a court date?


Ive had a few about 5 years ago I just ignored and never heard anything about. Is this still the case?

[mgtony]

simon1987 said:

for £50

reading the badly printed almost illegible print out i was given it says i must pay or request a court hearing within 28 days.

if I fail do to either the police MAY apply for the penalty + 50% in court for enforcement as if it were a fine following a conviction.

I tried to pay it in cash when it was issues and go nothing but an arsey response.


If I request a court hearing what happens? I assume they will have to provide some evidence of the offense being committed? Whats the chances of dash cam footage still being available for a routine traffic stop some 28 days + however long it takes to get a court date?


Ive had a few about 5 years ago I just ignored and never heard anything about. Is this still the case?

What was it for? No MOT????

Edited by mgtony on Monday 18th May 17:50

[aw51 121565]

simon1987 said:

...

reading the badly printed almost illegible print out i was given ...

You were stopped at the time and know full well what you're accused of ; if this goes to court there will be a statement from the police officer read out by the prosecutor stating what happened - this will be their evidence.

The police won't take money off drivers at the roadside, unless the driver is a foreign national without an address in the UK. The police will have explained what you need to do to pay the £50. You won't get away with this unless you have a stunning defence in court (or you don't pay and they don't follow it up).

[anonymous-user]

It's not 'no MOT', as that's £100.

OP, it would help if you put what non-endorsable offence you were issued one for.

[bitchstewie]

If you tried to pay it in cash why not just pay it now?

[simon1987]

mgtony said:

What was it for? No MOT????

Edited by mgtony on Monday 18th May 17:50

what is it with this forum instantly checking everyone's previous posts? Its really really weird I post on a lot of forums and none of them are as bad for it than this one.

aw51 121565 said:

You were stopped at the time and know full well what you're accused of ; if this goes to court there will be a statement from the police officer read out by the prosecutor stating what happened - this will be their evidence.

The police won't take money off drivers at the roadside, unless the driver is a foreign national without an address in the UK. The police will have explained what you need to do to pay the £50. You won't get away with this unless you have a stunning defence in court (or you don't pay and they don't follow it up).

Just a statement? At the top of the piece of paper it says the officer had seen the vehicle in circumstances that made him reasonably aware that an offense had been committed.

Surely it just cant boil down to its my word against his?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

So when the officer stopped you what did He/She say they had seen ?

[TooMany2cvs]

simon1987 said:

Surely it just cant boil down to its my word against his?

Why on earth not?

[simon1987]

a minor driving offense being committed but they were mistaken

[simon1987]

TooMany2cvs said:

Why on earth not?

because its innocent till proven guilty in this country and a written statement by a policeman its necessarily an accurate account of events.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

simon1987 said:

a minor driving offense being committed but they were mistaken

What minor driving offense ?

[simon1987]

irrelevant

small fine, none endosable = minor.

[mgtony]

simon1987 said:

what is it with this forum instantly checking everyone's previous posts? Its really really weird I post on a lot of forums and none of them are as bad for it than this one.

No checking. The threads were on top of each other.

[anonymous-user]

simon1987 said:

irrelevant

small fine, none endosable = minor.

It's not irrelevant if you're asking for specific advice as to whether or not police car cameras may have captured the offence, or whether or not the footage may have been saved as evidence of the offence.

[simon1987]

I know they captured what he believed was an offense being committed as he showed it me through his window as i gave him my details.

but if it was anything serious it would be a proper fine and points.

[bitchstewie]

Why did you offer "pay cash"?

[simon1987]

because he said he was issuing me with a fpn of £50. Im not a career criminal and wasnt aware you just cant pay them on the spot. Seems stupid that tourists get preferential treatment on this.

[robinessex]

Amazing. Most agrieved posters here say 'I did such and such' to show it was trivial, or something. Yet this poster refuses to say what the incident was. Why? But why not pay up anyway, as you initially accepted you had committed some offence. What's the problem now?

[bitchstewie]

simon1987 said:

because he said he was issuing me with a fpn of £50. Im not a career criminal and wasnt aware you just cant pay them on the spot. Seems stupid that tourists get preferential treatment on this.

I took it to be some acceptance that whatever they say you did, you did?

Either way I think the answer to your original question is "roll the dice" - is it worth it over fifty quid that you seemed to accept paying anyway?

[herewego]

I think you need to let the police know you will need the video evidence for your defence. If they fail to provide it I expect the mags. will take a dim view.