Army Convoys? - For BiB
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Fat Audi 80

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2,403 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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What are the rules regarding Army convoys on the road using full beams, fog lamps or whatever auxillary lamps they have handy all the time??

It is quite annoying and IMO dangerous for users of both sides of the carriageway.

Can they use them lights that legally, is there a loophole for Army??

Cheers,

Steve.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Convoy lights. Standard practice.

Fat Audi 80

Original Poster:

2,403 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Convoy lighes - Bloody annoying then!

Or

Chav!

omitchell

19,762 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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do convoy lights only apply to the army or can i use convoy lights if i'm in a convoy?

DJFish

6,017 posts

292 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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More importantly, is there a law stopping the human freight in the back of said lorries from staring at passing motorists?
It's quite off putting and could cause an accident.

Nick_f

10,598 posts

275 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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'Convoy Lights' would be 5w of shielded white light at the back and none at all at the front. Tactical use only.

From memory there are no (peacetime) exemptions to the rules for military vehicles either individually or in convoy.

There are operating procedures for convoys, however, and these should not incorporate behaviour that inconveniences other road users.

kevinday

13,833 posts

309 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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When I was driving MoD vehicles the convoy rules for normal roads were:

All vehicles to have dipped headlights on;
Lead and tail vehicles to display a flag (can't remember colours);
Broken down vehicles to display a blue flag;
Distance between vehicle was also stipulated.
No vehicles had fog or driving lights fitted, so no use of them. Mind you, many had very badly adjusted headlights.

Fat Audi 80

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2,403 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Don't get me wrong I am not being overly picky but the convoy on the A34 yesterday of Scania DROPS (Demountable Rack Offload and Pickup System (My dad worked on the project when I was a nipper)) lorries had quad lights with all of them on. They definitely weren't all Dipped!

Cheers,

Steve.

Nick_f

10,598 posts

275 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Probably just muppetry with a bit of 'look at me' thrown in.

Not for nothing were that particular branch of the RLC - Royal Logistical Corps (Really Large Corps) - previously known as the RCT - Reckless C**** in Trucks (Royal Corps of Transport).

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

273 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Army convoys on a road as a convoy need only display at night:

Front position lamps only on vehicle leading convoy.

Other vehicles a bright light underneath so that their presence can be seen from the rear.

Rear position lamps only on the rearmost vehicle.

PROVIDING

Not less than 6 or more than 12 vehicles

There is written authorisation vehicle is a convoy/exercise

48 hours notice is given to every Police Force convoy intendeds to travel through.

Distance between two vehicles does not exceed 20 metres.

Any of these breached then back to full lighting same as thee and me.

See RV Lighting Regs,1989 Reg 7.

DVD



kenp

654 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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kevinday said:
When I was driving MoD vehicles the convoy rules for normal roads were:

All vehicles to have dipped headlights on;
Lead and tail vehicles to display a flag (can't remember colours);
Broken down vehicles to display a blue flag;
Distance between vehicle was also stipulated.
No vehicles had fog or driving lights fitted, so no use of them. Mind you, many had very badly adjusted headlights.


Lead vehicle Blue flag
Tail vehicle Green flag
Broken down Yellow flag

In addition every vehicle with explosive cargo Red flag

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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I like army convoys, and I always wave to the lads sat in the back of the trucks, bored and shivering.
I get really excited too when there is a huge great tank on one of those massive flatbeds being towed by a humungous tractor unit. The more the better.

silverback mike

11,293 posts

282 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Balmoral Green said:
I like army convoys, and I always wave to the lads sat in the back of the trucks, bored and shivering.
I get really excited too when there is a huge great tank on one of those massive flatbeds being towed by a humungous tractor unit. The more the better.


Ahhhh memories of cold wet nights, 7.5 tonners, exmoor, woodberry rash, kidney punches...........

....character building...

kevinday

13,833 posts

309 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Thanks Kenp, it is about 10 years ago now for me.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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peeing in empty coca cola bottles if caught in between scheduled stops..

silverback mike

11,293 posts

282 months

Wednesday 26th January 2005
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Streetcop said:
peeing in empty coca cola bottles if caught in between scheduled stops..


Or your oppos' boots

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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RCT or Rickshaws cabs and taxis.

our standing orders were always HST Head,side and tail.

i'd go with them being either badly adjusted ( i drove a lightweight once where i thought the headlights were a bit out. stopped to check and one of them fell out, so i just taped it back and continued to signal planes with it. and i continued to hold the transfer leaver in palce with my foot) or they've been buying crappy civi trucks.

Ahh those where the days 1 tonnys, bedford Mk/J's and the luxury truck the Bedford 8 and 16 tonnys. enough room to kip in and everything assisted. mind you the twin rear axle 16 tonny would never do anything other and straight on off road. the 8 tonny was fine.

G

kevinday

13,833 posts

309 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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My experiences ranges from Bedford RL, through TK, MK/J to the Leyland Daf 4 tonners, Scammell 25 tonne recovery truck, the old Foden 8 wheeler, and, once only, an 8 wheeler AWD DROPS.

bumpkin

158 posts

284 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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Streetcop said:
peeing in empty coca cola bottles if caught in between scheduled stops..


not out the back of the truck?

Fat Audi 80

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2,403 posts

280 months

Thursday 27th January 2005
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silverback mike said:

Streetcop said:
peeing in empty coca cola bottles if caught in between scheduled stops..



Or your oppos' boots


What is Oppo short for?
See it used a lot