150mph as dangerous as firing a shotgun....
150mph as dangerous as firing a shotgun....
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nutcase

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1,145 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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in a crowded street...

Yeah, righty-ho love.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3683441.stm

"Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street

Isobel Brydie, SCID "

Just found this on the BBC as a side-link to a recent story. He was on the phone too, which I thought was a nice touch. A+ for effort.

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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150mph whilst on the phone? Wot a nob.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Utter tosh.... I have driven at over 150 and never killed anyone.... Now fire a shotgun down the main street in Peterborough and you would kill hundreds of illegal immigrants in a split-second

JonRB

80,047 posts

301 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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I'm sure I've seen this before.

edit: Ah, I see the article is from May 2004. Doubtless we discussed it then in that case. I thought the emotive claptrap quote was familiar.

edit2: Yep, we have discussed it before: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=97288

>> Edited by JonRB on Tuesday 1st February 16:02

nutcase

Original Poster:

1,145 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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BliarOut said:
you would kill hundreds of illegal immigrants in a split-second


Gulliver

673 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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'As dangerous as firing a shotgun in a crowd'

'Nearly impossible to control a vehicle at that speed'

Well, the laws of physics must be different on German Autobahn then. (Incidentally with a better safety record than in the UK).

This type of sweeping statements from officials just for show do not do anyone any favor, same as the anti drug policies of the past 'There is no soft drugs, a joint or shooting up heroin is the same thing'.

Driving at 150 mph is not a sensible thing in the UK, but
these types of ridiculous statement just discredit the whole thing really.....

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Would be best if we rounded up lifes non participants and gave them a sanctuary somewhere.(SCAGD ) How about we get a petition going to get this guy a seat in the Lords?

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Gulliver said:

'As dangerous as firing a shotgun in a crowd'

'Nearly impossible to control a vehicle at that speed'

This type of sweeping statements from officials just for show do not do anyone any favor...


Those two statements above are somewhere between seriously misleading and complete nonsense.

Unfortunately twerps like Ms Brydie (I'm pretty sure she'll be a Ms!) get a lot of publicity and many people will believe what she says.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

300 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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comments by morons, for the gullible. FFS, 150 can be acheived in relative safety if you choose the place correctly. Still, these people won't understand that huh?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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There's not an awful lot of places where 150mph can be sustained safely for very long....

TripleS

4,294 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Streetcop said:
There's not an awful lot of places where 150mph can be sustained safely for very long....


I wouldn't disagree with that, unless you can find virtually deserted stretches of motorway.

Part of the difficulty though is that if you mention 150 mph to someone they picture you doing that speed everywhere, failing to realise that in a typical journey speed varies over a fairly wide range.

Mine normally varies between zero and 110.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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hertsbiker said:
comments by morons, for the gullible. FFS, 150 can be acheived in relative safety if you choose the place correctly. Still, these people won't understand that huh?

Sadly, these people are not speaking from experience, so they do not know that a well built car on a smooth road with good visibility is actually quite controllable.

If they haven't done it before, then they shouldn't no be allowed to pass comment on it.

Streetcop - the number of places 150 is attainable is not in question. The place where the perpetrator was caught was obviously one of those places - it had to have been a fairly straight and long road for the rozzers to bust him.

We don't knoe the particular circumstances, we're only commenting on the rash, misinformed generalisation which adds to the speed kills dogma that is choking us ever more.

supraman2954

3,241 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Isobel Brydie SCID said:
Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street
Why not go all the way and call him a terrorist?


I can do better......

Walking out into the path of a car doing 29mph carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street

....but do we ever hear analogies like this? *sigh*

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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hertsbiker said:
comments by morons, for the gullible. FFS, 150 can be acheived in relative safety if you choose the place correctly. Still, these people won't understand that huh?


Yes, people speaking fuelled by emotion (as usual).

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street"

I'll, just have to get me a motorbike then!

v8thunder

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Gulliver said:

'As dangerous as firing a shotgun in a crowd'

'Nearly impossible to control a vehicle at that speed'

Well, the laws of physics must be different on German Autobahn then. (Incidentally with a better safety record than in the UK).

This type of sweeping statements from officials just for show do not do anyone any favor, same as the anti drug policies of the past 'There is no soft drugs, a joint or shooting up heroin is the same thing'.

Driving at 150 mph is not a sensible thing in the UK, but
these types of ridiculous statement just discredit the whole thing really.....


Typical of hand-wringers who see a law created for cars that struggled to 70 mph with swing-arm suspension and drum brakes to be more important than the laws of physics.

I suppose, going off their logic, that every racing car must be utterly undrivable and every race must result in the death of anyone who ventures over 70. Hopeless.

Then again, I can't honestly think of any places in Britain where it would be sensible to do 150 mph.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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v8thunder said:

Gulliver said:

'As dangerous as firing a shotgun in a crowd'

'Nearly impossible to control a vehicle at that speed'

Well, the laws of physics must be different on German Autobahn then. (Incidentally with a better safety record than in the UK).

This type of sweeping statements from officials just for show do not do anyone any favor, same as the anti drug policies of the past 'There is no soft drugs, a joint or shooting up heroin is the same thing'.

Driving at 150 mph is not a sensible thing in the UK, but
these types of ridiculous statement just discredit the whole thing really.....



Typical of hand-wringers who see a law created for cars that struggled to 70 mph with swing-arm suspension and drum brakes to be more important than the laws of physics.

I suppose, going off their logic, that every racing car must be utterly undrivable and every race must result in the death of anyone who ventures over 70. Hopeless.

Then again, I can't honestly think of any places in Britain where it would be sensible to do 150 mph.

I can.... Four lurvely deserted straight lanes, personally certified but I'm not telling where

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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What would happen if you drove along at 150, AND shot a gun at somebody..
is it like spped of light spaceship/headlight dilemma?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st February 2005
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Errr....sorry, your Scottish Expertships, it's not dangerous.

We have already tested this in Court here

gone

6,649 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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BliarOut said:
Utter tosh.... I have driven at over 150 and never killed anyone.... Now fire a shotgun down the main street in Peterborough and you would kill hundreds of illegal immigrants in a split-second


Not if you fired it straight up into the sky!
What a stupid analogy in any case.

If you drove a car into a crowded street at 150mph, you would most definately kill many more than firing a shotgun parallel along it! Even if the shotgun was loaded with SG, LG shot or solid slug!

The moral to this is. Dont fire your shotgun into a crowded street unless its pointing upwards.
Don't drive your car at 150mph down a crowded street if there are people standing in the way!!!

IDIOTS!