Sometimes you can avoid the 2 week NIP wait
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I often see posts on here where people are asking what the possible consequences might be as they think they've been caught by a speed camera van, so I thought I'd share the experience I had today.
I was coming off a 70MPH DC onto a 30 limit SC, when I noticed a speed camera van hidden in a row of parked cars. I braked immediately, but thought I'd probably been caught. I knew I hadn't been blasting along at 50MPH, but I didn't think I'd taken enough speed off before the 30 limit started, and reckoned he'd got me at 36/37MPH.
I'm going to be away a lot over the next few weeks, and I didn't really fancy watching the letterbox/constantly calling my parents to find out if an NIP had dropped through the letterbox. So, I turned round and parked up near the camera van, and went over to ask him if he'd caught me, expecting him to tell me I'd just have to wait 14 days.
I think he expected a load of abuse and was quite taken aback when he realised I just wanted to talk to him. I gave him the details of my car and told him I'd been past in the last few minutes, and asked if he'd caught me. He said he wasn't sure, but he could take my number and reg and call me after he'd finished at that site as he'd be reviewing the film.
Sure enough, I got a call this evening telling me he'd reviewed it and I wasn't speeding, so I had nothing to worry about.
Obviously, other camera operators might not be so obliging, but it's got to be worth a try, particularly if you think you might have been caught at a speed which would get you into a bit of trouble.
I was coming off a 70MPH DC onto a 30 limit SC, when I noticed a speed camera van hidden in a row of parked cars. I braked immediately, but thought I'd probably been caught. I knew I hadn't been blasting along at 50MPH, but I didn't think I'd taken enough speed off before the 30 limit started, and reckoned he'd got me at 36/37MPH.
I'm going to be away a lot over the next few weeks, and I didn't really fancy watching the letterbox/constantly calling my parents to find out if an NIP had dropped through the letterbox. So, I turned round and parked up near the camera van, and went over to ask him if he'd caught me, expecting him to tell me I'd just have to wait 14 days.
I think he expected a load of abuse and was quite taken aback when he realised I just wanted to talk to him. I gave him the details of my car and told him I'd been past in the last few minutes, and asked if he'd caught me. He said he wasn't sure, but he could take my number and reg and call me after he'd finished at that site as he'd be reviewing the film.
Sure enough, I got a call this evening telling me he'd reviewed it and I wasn't speeding, so I had nothing to worry about.
Obviously, other camera operators might not be so obliging, but it's got to be worth a try, particularly if you think you might have been caught at a speed which would get you into a bit of trouble.
Geekman said:
I often see posts on here where people are asking what the possible consequences might be as they think they've been caught by a speed camera van, so I thought I'd share the experience I had today.
I was coming off a 70MPH DC onto a 30 limit SC, when I noticed a speed camera van hidden in a row of parked cars. I braked immediately, but thought I'd probably been caught. I knew I hadn't been blasting along at 50MPH, but I didn't think I'd taken enough speed off before the 30 limit started, and reckoned he'd got me at 36/37MPH.
I'm going to be away a lot over the next few weeks, and I didn't really fancy watching the letterbox/constantly calling my parents to find out if an NIP had dropped through the letterbox. So, I turned round and parked up near the camera van, and went over to ask him if he'd caught me, expecting him to tell me I'd just have to wait 14 days.
I think he expected a load of abuse and was quite taken aback when he realised I just wanted to talk to him. I gave him the details of my car and told him I'd been past in the last few minutes, and asked if he'd caught me. He said he wasn't sure, but he could take my number and reg and call me after he'd finished at that site as he'd be reviewing the film.
Sure enough, I got a call this evening telling me he'd reviewed it and I wasn't speeding, so I had nothing to worry about.
Obviously, other camera operators might not be so obliging, but it's got to be worth a try, particularly if you think you might have been caught at a speed which would get you into a bit of trouble.
Is it 35mm film that he reviewed?I was coming off a 70MPH DC onto a 30 limit SC, when I noticed a speed camera van hidden in a row of parked cars. I braked immediately, but thought I'd probably been caught. I knew I hadn't been blasting along at 50MPH, but I didn't think I'd taken enough speed off before the 30 limit started, and reckoned he'd got me at 36/37MPH.
I'm going to be away a lot over the next few weeks, and I didn't really fancy watching the letterbox/constantly calling my parents to find out if an NIP had dropped through the letterbox. So, I turned round and parked up near the camera van, and went over to ask him if he'd caught me, expecting him to tell me I'd just have to wait 14 days.
I think he expected a load of abuse and was quite taken aback when he realised I just wanted to talk to him. I gave him the details of my car and told him I'd been past in the last few minutes, and asked if he'd caught me. He said he wasn't sure, but he could take my number and reg and call me after he'd finished at that site as he'd be reviewing the film.
Sure enough, I got a call this evening telling me he'd reviewed it and I wasn't speeding, so I had nothing to worry about.
Obviously, other camera operators might not be so obliging, but it's got to be worth a try, particularly if you think you might have been caught at a speed which would get you into a bit of trouble.
My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
LoonR1 said:
Is it 35mm film that he reviewed?
My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
I'd be very surprised if it was 35mm film - I had a brief look around the van whilst talking to him and it was all very high-tech, with LCD screens etc, it looked brand new to me.My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
He said that he had to stay there for another 40 minutes, and then he'd take a look through the film, so it sounded to me like he looks through the footage after finishing at each site.
Geekman said:
He said that he had to stay there for another 40 minutes, and then he'd take a look through the film, so it sounded to me like he looks through the footage after finishing at each site.
I think he was bulls
tting you.I thought the scammers had people back in the office on minimum wage looking through the footage and posting the NIP's?
lbc said:
I think he was bullstting you.
I thought the scammers had people back in the office on minimum wage looking through the footage and posting the NIP's?
That's what I thought beforehand as well. But then surely if that was the case he'd simply say "sorry - you've got to wait 2 weeks" rather than going to all the trouble of taking my number and reg, and then calling me later?tting you.I thought the scammers had people back in the office on minimum wage looking through the footage and posting the NIP's?
Geekman said:
lbc said:
I think he was bullstting you.
I thought the scammers had people back in the office on minimum wage looking through the footage and posting the NIP's?
That's what I thought beforehand as well. But then surely if that was the case he'd simply say "sorry - you've got to wait 2 weeks" rather than going to all the trouble of taking my number and reg, and then calling me later?tting you.I thought the scammers had people back in the office on minimum wage looking through the footage and posting the NIP's?
I thought it was all done automatically with ANPR, digital footage, etc as well. He did phone you back right enough though so could be legit. Seems a bit odd though and i'm surprised he did.
Geekman said:
LoonR1 said:
Is it 35mm film that he reviewed?
My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
I'd be very surprised if it was 35mm film - I had a brief look around the van whilst talking to him and it was all very high-tech, with LCD screens etc, it looked brand new to me.My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
He said that he had to stay there for another 40 minutes, and then he'd take a look through the film, so it sounded to me like he looks through the footage after finishing at each site.
LoonR1 said:
Is it 35mm film that he reviewed?
My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
Film = video. That's unattended automatic speed cameras. My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
LoonR1 said:
Is it 35mm film that he reviewed?
My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
Your understanding is mistaken.My understanding was that registrations are read automatically, photos produced digitally and all submitted electronically for mass production of NIPs as per the data received. I'd be amazed if camera operators go home and review the "film" manually.
Not sure where you are getting your information from.
The operator described by the OP would most probably be using video recorded to a CF card or DVD. If CF card it can be reviewed on-the-spot and DVD reviewed at the end of recording or back at base. Some operators do review their recordings on return to base; if someone has asked a specific question, like the OP did, they may well look for something specific. Some operators would simply respond to a question like the OP made with "you will need to wait and see" that will be, in my opinion, the most common and practical answer.
I've today written a short and not too detailed 'blog' post about portable speed meters:
http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/8/16/how-do-po...
http://www.counsel.direct/news/2015/8/16/how-do-po...
tapereel said:
Your understanding is mistaken.
Not sure where you are getting your information from.
The operator described by the OP would most probably be using video recorded to a CF card or DVD. If CF card it can be reviewed on-the-spot and DVD reviewed at the end of recording or back at base. Some operators do review their recordings on return to base; if someone has asked a specific question, like the OP did, they may well look for something specific. Some operators would simply respond to a question like the OP made with "you will need to wait and see" that will be, in my opinion, the most common and practical answer.
I'm not getting it from anywhere. It was my opinion of how it worked, which is wrong and I'm happy to be corrected. Not sure where you are getting your information from.
The operator described by the OP would most probably be using video recorded to a CF card or DVD. If CF card it can be reviewed on-the-spot and DVD reviewed at the end of recording or back at base. Some operators do review their recordings on return to base; if someone has asked a specific question, like the OP did, they may well look for something specific. Some operators would simply respond to a question like the OP made with "you will need to wait and see" that will be, in my opinion, the most common and practical answer.
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