Licence surrendered/insurance...
Licence surrendered/insurance...
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Fish

4,064 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Yes he will need to tell the insurers he is not the main driver, not doing so is fronting and fraud.

As he won't hold a UK license he will have to tell them this as well as it is a change of circumstances, I imagine he will be removed form the policy as a driver.

Unfortunately his wife will be the main driver, he will lose his no claims after 2yrs and he'll essentially start from scratch when and if he gets his license back.

Weirdly he maybe able to continue to be the policyholder but not as a driver? Not sure though but he'll have to inform and be taken off the policy as a driver.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,175 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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He should tell his insurance company he has had to surrender his licence and that his wife will be the main driver (or even the only driver), but he can continue to have the policy in his name and continue to benefit from the bonus. Many insurers will do a policy where the policyholder is excluded from driving. it's unusual, but not impossible.

If they won't do that, then they will almost certainly allow a transfer of the ncb to his wife for her to use, so the bonus will not be lost.


Slidingpillar

761 posts

166 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
He should tell his insurance company he has had to surrender his licence and that his wife will be the main driver (or even the only driver), but he can continue to have the policy in his name and continue to benefit from the bonus. Many insurers will do a policy where the policyholder is excluded from driving. it's unusual, but not impossible.

If they won't do that, then they will almost certainly allow a transfer of the ncb to his wife for her to use, so the bonus will not be lost.
This. And the first part I have experience of as I had to surrender my licence and it was about 18 months before I got it back. I was still the policy holder, but my brother was the only driver. Didn't cost me a penny either, but I was not using one of the cut price insurers who charge for everything.

dukeboy749r

3,923 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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I sincerely hope your brother recovers/gets sorted/is okay.

Best wishes

phumy

5,828 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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If the main driver has had their license taken away due to medical reasons and notified by the DVLA, many insurance companies will transfer the NCD between spouses, I know this because it happened to me. My wife was medically not allowed to drive any more and I was the named driver, I have now got her NCB transferred to me as the now main driver. All sorted with one phone call and one letter, no problems and no hassle.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,175 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Fish said:
Yes he will need to tell the insurers he is not the main driver, not doing so is fronting and fraud.
As an aside, fronting is nothing to do with insurance between husband and wife (unless one of them is 30 years younger than the other). Fronting is about getting your kid covered on the parent's policy by telling insurers that the kids is an occasional user when they are actually the main user.

Even if the OP forgot to tell his insurers he was no longer driving, they would not look upon that omission as fronting or fraud, but just as a bloke with health problems and with a lot on his mind who didn't tell his insurers.

mcflurry

9,191 posts

283 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Isn't NCB transferable between husband and wife anyway ? (or vice versa)

TwigtheWonderkid

49,175 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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mcflurry said:
Isn't NCB transferable between husband and wife anyway ? (or vice versa)
Depending on the circumstances, often. Certainly in these circumstances it would be.

phumy

5,828 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
mcflurry said:
Isn't NCB transferable between husband and wife anyway ? (or vice versa)
Depending on the circumstances, often. Certainly in these circumstances it would be.
Yes, If it is DVLA driven, i.e. they are party to the reason for the license withdrawal.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Check you policy document to see what you must notify them about mid term, if it's not in there you don't have to tell them untill renewal

Dog Star

17,630 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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I'm surprised that Loon hasn't rocked up with the definative answer by now. I'd suggest PMing him or - heaven forbid - getting your brother to call his insurers.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Dog Star said:
I'm surprised that Loon hasn't rocked up with the definative answer by now. I'd suggest PMing him or - heaven forbid - getting your brother to call his insurers.
He's taking a break, flemke or someone hurt his feelings, he has retired to his angry shouting room for a month or 3

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

141 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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This is no different to putting your chauffeur onto your policy, you are the car owner and policy holder you just let them know who the main driver is going to be, NCB is yours, they will want to know the drivers history of points/claims etc. If you get stuck call one of the proper insurance brokers and explain it as per a chauffeurs policy

Dog Star

17,630 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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ging84 said:
He's taking a break, flemke or someone hurt his feelings, he has retired to his angry shouting room for a month or 3
Oh dear.

That's a shame, I like reading Loons stuff and he's a great source of insurance related information, but his style can be inflammatory sometimes and from all reports he's a good guy IRL.

Trouble is that when people ask insurance related questions there are twenty different respondents with twenty different replies, many of them haven't a clue. I'd rate his advice over most. I'd therefore stick to my suggestion that the OPs brother calls his insurers.

Leroy902

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

133 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Just thought I'd follow this thread up, as I've finally sorted it.

My policy was with admiral, but after speaking to them, they were willing to move over 2 off the 11 years ncb I have onto my wife's name.
So I thought I'd try afew other insurers, just to gauge if that was the best I could expect.
After getting this year's renewal, turned out Hastings direct came out cheapest, so rang them up. After getting passed from sales to customer services departments afew time, they agreed they would transfer the full 11 years ncb over (she's only been driving for 6, which I told them, but they said I could still move over the full lot!?).

They did state that this was a 'once only transfer', and that I wouldn't be able to transfer them back onto my name further down the line.
They've requested I provide them a handwritten/signed letter giving my consent for the transfer, so I'm more than satisfied with the outcome.

Charlie1986

2,106 posts

165 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Leroy902 said:
Just thought I'd follow this thread up, as I've finally sorted it.

My policy was with admiral, but after speaking to them, they were willing to move over 2 off the 11 years ncb I have onto my wife's name.
So I thought I'd try afew other insurers, just to gauge if that was the best I could expect.
After getting this year's renewal, turned out Hastings direct came out cheapest, so rang them up. After getting passed from sales to customer services departments afew time, they agreed they would transfer the full 11 years ncb over (she's only been driving for 6, which I told them, but they said I could still move over the full lot!?).

They did state that this was a 'once only transfer', and that I wouldn't be able to transfer them back onto my name further down the line.
They've requested I provide them a handwritten/signed letter giving my consent for the transfer, so I'm more than satisfied with the outcome.
So you have transferred your NCB to your brothers wife for a car you don't own?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Charlie1986 said:
Leroy902 said:
Just thought I'd follow this thread up, as I've finally sorted it.

My policy was with admiral, but after speaking to them, they were willing to move over 2 off the 11 years ncb I have onto my wife's name.
So I thought I'd try afew other insurers, just to gauge if that was the best I could expect.
After getting this year's renewal, turned out Hastings direct came out cheapest, so rang them up. After getting passed from sales to customer services departments afew time, they agreed they would transfer the full 11 years ncb over (she's only been driving for 6, which I told them, but they said I could still move over the full lot!?).

They did state that this was a 'once only transfer', and that I wouldn't be able to transfer them back onto my name further down the line.
They've requested I provide them a handwritten/signed letter giving my consent for the transfer, so I'm more than satisfied with the outcome.
So you have transferred your NCB to your brothers wife for a car you don't own?
Clearly not but it does beg the question of who needs to do this, the OP or his brother.......... scratchchin

Charlie1986

2,106 posts

165 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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REALIST123 said:
Clearly not but it does beg the question of who needs to do this, the OP or his brother.......... scratchchin
I'm just confused before it was his brother now its him and his insurance

Hamish Finn

476 posts

138 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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It was originally "his brother" and "his brother's wife".

Now it's the OP and his wife.

Just like the old "my friend has..." syndrome.


Leroy902

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

133 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Sorry, I've obviously not been clear, it's my wife's car, it's always been my wife's car.
I've been the policy holder and MY wife and MY brother as second/third drivers.

I've now had to surrender my licence due to health reasons, and have no idea when I'll get it back, so I've been querying if I could transfer my 11 years ncb onto my wife's name, so she'd be able to use them as the new policy holder, and my brother (who drives the car on the odd occasion) as a second driver. I wouldn't/can't be on the policy because of not holding a licence.

After speaking to afew insurance companies, I've been successful, so I've been able to move over ALL my 11 years ncb over to my wife's name, and she's taken out a new policy with said company (Hastings direct), my brother as a second driver.